Re: [RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-25 Thread Garth

  
  I forgive you Steve ... 




On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar 
wrote:
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> On 9/25/19 12:28 PM, Garth wrote:
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>   All I can say about front dérailleurs is that I've found that double 
> FD's work on triple cranks much better than triple FD's. 
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> Not universally true*,* I've recently put a Tiagra FD4603F triple on my 
> Weigle, which has a 24/34/46 Herse crank (10 spd SRAM PG1070 12-32 
> cassette).  This particular derailleur seems to be made for gearing just 
> like mine and works amazingly well, better than any of the doubles I've 
> tried.  Previously I had a Tiagra double which worked until the LBS messed 
> with it, and then simply wouldn't work properly any more no matter how they 
> adjusted or bent it, and before that a Campagnolo double that wouldn't 
> shift to the small ring at all and only reluctantly shifted between large 
> and middle.  It's simply bloody amazing how well it works.
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> Or, use the 10 spd Tiagra FD4603F and be amazed.
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> -- 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-25 Thread Patrick Moore
This is an anecdote, if not a prescription.

I made an early Dura Ace 74XX fd work on a Brontrager hollow-pipe triple by
cutting off the little lever stop that limited outward throw. Serendipity
arranged that the new, far greater throw corresponded exactly with the
outer ring limit of the Bontrager crankset.

I now use the DA sans stop on a wide range Logic double, where careful
shifting (easy, in fact) and an large bash guard in the outer ring position
have so far kept the chain from overshooting.

I too like road fds for triples, though I have to say that the last MTB
triple, a 9-speed-era LX, shifted as well as anything else I've used.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-25 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 9/25/19 12:28 PM, Garth wrote:



  All I can say about front dérailleurs is that I've found that double 
FD's work on triple cranks much better than triple FD's.



Not universally true.  I've recently put a Tiagra FD4603F triple on my 
Weigle, which has a 24/34/46 Herse crank (10 spd SRAM PG1070 12-32 
cassette).  This particular derailleur seems to be made for gearing just 
like mine and works amazingly well, better than any of the doubles I've 
tried.  Previously I had a Tiagra double which worked until the LBS 
messed with it, and then simply wouldn't work properly any more no 
matter how they adjusted or bent it, and before that a Campagnolo double 
that wouldn't shift to the small ring at all and only reluctantly 
shifted between large and middle.  It's simply bloody amazing how well 
it works.



  My Bombadil, which I ride the same as I would any road bike, for 
example, with a Andel 24/36/46 crank, chainline about 46 or so a 
9-speed Shimano Tiagra 4400 double FD shifts swiftly and precise, it's 
simply excellent in every way !  I previously had used a 80's Deore 
MT60, which was slow and not so precise. *Triple cranks with rings in 
the 24-50 teeth range don't need triple FD's, assuming friction 
shifting.* The 4400 FD I'm using could easily handle a wider chainline 
also, as would most any road FD, at least from 9-10 speed and below.


So use a road FD , and you'll grin from ear to ear !



Or, use the 10 spd Tiagra FD4603F and be amazed.

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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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