Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Let's get Monty Python back On Topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U01xasUtlvw On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:50 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Hey Philip, > — Yes, slippery slope is a logical falicy, as well as, done properly, a > logical argument. > — Nae, I took no umbrage to

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Where does this leave Cinelli Pope handlebars? What about the later copies with revisions? Are they Episcopal bars? Are Jones bars more aptly named Mormon bars for their quintessentially American origin? Are track drops on a Pistachio Buddhist bars? Or would that be chopped off drops into

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Close this thread now! Before all hell (haha) breaks out. Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

+1 On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Paul Choi wrote: > Do not forget why we come to this board. Why do we need to tear down and > attack members here? > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 11:21:40 AM UTC-8, John A. Bennett wrote: >> >> A Sam Hillborne was spotted in the

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Why not? You would reign in references to racist or sexist terms, would you not? On what basis then do you include other offensive statements published on list? Now, the Monty Python reference doesn't bother me, even though I am a practicing Orthodox Christian who was raised traditional Roman

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I can’t imagine anything more ludicrous. On Feb 6, 2018, 7:29 PM -0800, Steve Palincsar , wrote: > Rein in a Monty Python reference because of alleged Catholic sensitivities?  > I should hope not. > > On 02/06/2018 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Aren't you the guy who

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Rein in a Monty Python reference because of alleged Catholic sensitivities?  I should hope not. On 02/06/2018 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: Aren't you the guy who took umbrage at being told the term "ghetto tubeless" could offend people? I'll reign in the Monty Python "Spanish

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Dane, Good for you and good for the owner. I will only chastise you about one thing: You left us all hanging as to why the bike was there. Columbo never ended the show like that. Give up the 411! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Nicely done, and thanks EricF Ottawa On 5 February 2018 at 17:40, Bill Lindsay wrote: > So the guy on the right is the owner of the bike? That's the happy ending > I was hoping for. > > What was the backstory to how the bike ended up locked to a pole for at > least two

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

This episode also furthers the need to register your bikes with BikeIndex.org I hope the bike gets home and I hope that all is resolved without hard feelings or martial intervention. -J On Feb 2, 2018, 4:09 PM -0800, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch ,

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

But spreading the word is the whole point. It just so happens that apparently the RBW Owners Bunch is chock full of internet litigators. Sure, life is full of gray areas. Operating on the motivational principle, if you catch some kid stealing sunglasses from your store, and he tells you he is

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Hi, I'm the guy that posted this in the first place. I have exchanged emails with the Craiglist poster. I have a report from someone in the neighborhood who spoke with him in person. He has reposted the ad. He has asked me on more than one occasion if I've had any luck on my end tracking

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I read a thread on crazyguyonabike not long ago by a couple whose tandem was stolen in New Orleans (I think) while they were eating lunch on their cross country tour. The bike was rather immediately purchased by a good samaritan, knowing it was stolen, for a song. Amazingly, he found the true

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I’ll agree with all of this on the condition that we all agree that purchasing a bike you think is stolen to try and return it to the rightful owner is also a crime, raises as many or more ethical issues, and should no longer be praised. Intentions don’t matter, right? Purchasing stolen

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

As in the rest of life - intentions don’t matter, impact does. The impact is that someone has now definitely had their bike stolen. -J On Feb 2, 2018, 1:40 PM -0800, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch , wrote: > Bill Lindsay wrote: The innocence of our

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I'm going to say that if that were my bike and "something bad happened" to me I would NOT want a stranger to cut my lock and put it in their garage and try to look for me. Even if "something bad" happens to me I will know where I left my bike and will return for it or send someone for it.

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Yep! At what point does a "the owner didn't claim it" bike become "my bike"? When I saw that Sam in San Francisco, locked up outdoors for months on end, I twice placed an ad on Craigslist asking the owner that if she or he no longer wanted that Sam Hillborne parked somewhere in the city, I'd

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

As others have mentioned, what I get hung up on is, what will the CL dude do if/when nobody comes forward for the bike? Does he have an ultimate plan on that? Will he eventually assume nobody is coming back for it and relinquish it to the police as a 'found item'? Or will he keep it

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I skapprove if Bill’s armchair lawyer assessment and of his lawyer friend’s assessment. My car once got a sticker and boot on it because it was parked across the street from my apartment for over 72 hours. That neighbor was a particularly picky person who felt they “owned” the space and used

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

About five years ago I occasionally walked past an orange Sam Hillborne that had been locked up in one place, outdoors, for so long that the components were all rusted and the spokes were a tangle of spider webs. I stopped by my local police station and asked an officer if the owner could be

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Bill, I'm sure you'd return the money if you knew that it came from someone who lost everything: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/22/world/la-fg-japan-returned-money-20110923 This reminds me of the scores of unlocked bikes I saw in Tokyo--even the locked bikes I remember were not locked to

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I agree with the idea to post a notice where the bike was letting the owner know how to contact you. If they were somehow unable to get to their bike for a few weeks (maybe in a coma?) and then went back to retrieve it, there should be some way for them to find it. --Eric N

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Jeff I did the identical googlings, for theft and unauthorized borrowing --> plagiarism. It's like we used the same interwebz On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 12:59:20 PM UTC-8, Jeff wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: > >> Interesting. It

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Interesting. It isn’t theft if you take something that isn’t yours but > don’t intend to permanently deprive the owner of the property. > > So I could take a bike that isn’t mine, use it for six months and put it > back

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

When the Craiglist ad expires in ~2 weeks, who will remember it? Poster should at least make VERY PUBLICLY CLEAR and known his/her name, address, phone number-- maybe then "the community" will be better able to help connect the owner back with their stolen property. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA