Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-26 Thread hsmitham 
@ Mike, Don't know that area too well either. Guess I got some riding to 
do! I did a ride last year from my house up the old road through Santa 
Clarita West on the 126 to Piru. On the way back it was all head wind! I 
know I'll explore that area some more. I'll check out the Pine canyon rd 
through lake Hughes at some point. Hey I think I'll be down in Carlsbad for 
my Nephews play on Friday March 22nd. Perhaps a ride on Saturday? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 7:58:41 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> I just realized that Hans Rossman, who rides/writes for BQ with Jan Heine 
> was on that Bro'vet.   Of course they missed the good parts by not taking 
> Pine Canyon rd through Lake Hughes and going over Spunky saddle. ... too 
> bad.  City Slickers I guess.
>
>
> On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:45:00 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote:
>>
>> FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very 
>> close to this:
>> http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
>> A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
>> interested in the ride
>>
>> Rob
>> oceanaircycles.com
>> Ventura, Ca
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
>>> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
>>> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
>>> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
>>> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
>>> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
>>> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
>>> the feasibility and worthiness.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> Sunland, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys 
 tracked me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at 
 Union Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful 
 :)

 @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
> snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>
> ~mike
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>>
>> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>>
>> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
>> the ground... scary!)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> Jim:
>>>
>>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
>>> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
>>> up 
>>> those fat bikes.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>>> Cyclery wrote:
>>>
 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Mike Schiller 
I just realized that Hans Rossman, who rides/writes for BQ with Jan Heine 
was on that Bro'vet.   Of course they missed the good parts by not taking 
Pine Canyon rd through Lake Hughes and going over Spunky saddle. ... too 
bad.  City Slickers I guess.


On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:45:00 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote:
>
> FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
> to this:
> http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
> A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
> interested in the ride
>
> Rob
> oceanaircycles.com
> Ventura, Ca
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
>> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
>> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
>> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
>> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
>> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
>> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
>> the feasibility and worthiness.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
>>> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
>>> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>>>
>>> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Sunland, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>
> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>
> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
> the ground... scary!)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
>> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
>> up 
>> those fat bikes.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>>
>>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
>>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread hsmitham 
@ Bryan, I've been thinking of the O.R.R since I saw the article Doug 
mentioned in the Los Angeles Times.

I've ridden the LA river a few times and I always enjoy it. Good sights.

I understand the idea of getting into a car to go ride a bike seems 
unseemly. That said the public transit system here in SoCal is woefully 
lacking. I want to ride for a day in Long Beach I need to ride 15 miles to 
the Gold Line in So Pasadena then catch two other trains total time 120 + 
minutes one way. I would love a Metro station out my way say a station up 
to 5 miles distance. I think the ride to Cullver City is doable then ride 
the Ballona Creek bike trail to Marina Del Ray. 

Yeah and what you say about riding the streets of Los Angeles definitely 
builds some kind of character, hyper vigilant character.

Hugh
Sunland, CA




On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:36:56 AM UTC-8, Bryan wrote:
>
> For some reason, I've been daydreaming about the Ridge Route area myself 
> lately! It's hard for me to motivate to take a bike ride that involves a 
> car, though, especially since I share one car with my wife and kids. I 
> can't complain, with the Santa Monica Mountains and Topanga State Park so 
> close by. But I would like to see some new terrain, so an intriguing ride 
> report might give me the motivation to explore.
>
> Nice to see your photos of the LA River path, Hugh. I rode that path for 
> the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it's great to see the LA River 
> actually start to look like a normal river in places.  
>
> Jim - I lived for a number of years in Milwaukee, and I do miss the 
> "character building" riding during the winter. Then again, bike commuting 
> in LA provides plenty of character building in its own way : )
>
> Bryan
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread hsmitham 
@ Rperks, thanks for the Brovet blog I enjoyed it. Not certain I'm into 
doing that entire ride especially the I-5 section. Which is why I presume 
you have friends looking for a dirt route. I'm interested in that route 
though.  For now I'm going to do a day ride 40 mile RT on the O.R.R. and 
determine whether it's suitable for a S240?  Post the dirt route info when 
its determined. 

Regards,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:45:00 AM UTC-8, rperks wrote:
>
> FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
> to this:
> http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
> A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
> interested in the ride
>
> Rob
> oceanaircycles.com
> Ventura, Ca
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
>> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
>> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
>> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
>> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
>> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
>> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
>> the feasibility and worthiness.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
>>> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
>>> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>>>
>>> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Sunland, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>
> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>
> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
> the ground... scary!)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
>> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
>> up 
>> those fat bikes.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>>
>>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
>>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread rperks 
FYI, I have some friends working out a legal dirt route that is very close 
to this:
http://yonderjournal.com/studies/brovet/
A bit more than the average riv ride, but drop me a line if you are 
interested in the ride

Rob
oceanaircycles.com
Ventura, Ca

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:48:03 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
> the feasibility and worthiness.
>
>  
>
> Hugh
>
> Sunland, CA
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
>> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
>> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>>
>> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>>
>>> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
>>> snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:

 Yeah, snow bike for the win!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/

 (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
 the ground... scary!)


 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Jim:
>
> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
> up 
> those fat bikes.  
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
> Cyclery wrote:
>
>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>
>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Bryan 
For some reason, I've been daydreaming about the Ridge Route area myself 
lately! It's hard for me to motivate to take a bike ride that involves a 
car, though, especially since I share one car with my wife and kids. I 
can't complain, with the Santa Monica Mountains and Topanga State Park so 
close by. But I would like to see some new terrain, so an intriguing ride 
report might give me the motivation to explore.

Nice to see your photos of the LA River path, Hugh. I rode that path for 
the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it's great to see the LA River 
actually start to look like a normal river in places.  

Jim - I lived for a number of years in Milwaukee, and I do miss the 
"character building" riding during the winter. Then again, bike commuting 
in LA provides plenty of character building in its own way : )

Bryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread dougP 
I'm up for this.  I recall that LA Times article a while back.  Look 
forward to Hugh's report.  Mike, sounds like you may already have it 
wired.  

dougP

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 9:12:48 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
> since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
>  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
> lot of climbing. 
> We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
> mountains east of the Ridge Route.
>
> ~mike
>
>>
>>
>>
>>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread Mike Schiller 
Actually the best riding are the dirt roads that cross Sawmill Mtn near the 
top of the Ridge Route or  Fish Creek canyon  that crosses over to Warm 
Springs. I've done many loops and rides in those areas over the years, many 
on my rigid Bridgestone MB2 and later on my Hillborne and Ram.

~mike


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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-25 Thread cyclotourist 
Great minds apparently think alike, you two! 40 sounds a lot more fun!


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:05 PM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Hey Mike you must have replying while I was. That's exactly what I was
> thinking and yes the bulk of ruins are in that stretch.
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:59:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> ...we could park at Templin hwy and ride out and back to Sandberg ruins.
>> about 40 miles and 1400 ft of climbing?
>>
>> this covers most Historical parts and misses the big climb out of
>> Castaic.  No food or  or water along this section.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:20:53 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>>>
>>> 70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the
>>> foreseeable future. Take lots of pictures!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there
 since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up
  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a
 lot of climbing.
 We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the
 mountains east of the Ridge Route.

 ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread hsmitham 
Hey Mike you must have replying while I was. That's exactly what I was 
thinking and yes the bulk of ruins are in that stretch.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:59:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> ...we could park at Templin hwy and ride out and back to Sandberg ruins. 
> about 40 miles and 1400 ft of climbing?
>
> this covers most Historical parts and misses the big climb out of Castaic. 
>  No food or  or water along this section.
>
> ~mike
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:20:53 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> 70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the 
>> foreseeable future. Take lots of pictures!!!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
>>> since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
>>>  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
>>> lot of climbing. 
>>> We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
>>> mountains east of the Ridge Route.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>>



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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread hsmitham 
David I'm not going to do the whole route. Drive up and park  where Templin 
Hwy and the 5 Fwy meet and go as far as Sandberg or just before it about 20 
miles out. So 40 RT. Not really into 70 miles one way right now :)

Hugh
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>
> 70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the foreseeable 
> future. Take lots of pictures!!!
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
>> since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
>>  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
>> lot of climbing. 
>> We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
>> mountains east of the Ridge Route.
>>
>> ~mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread Mike Schiller 
...we could park at Templin hwy and ride out and back to Sandberg ruins. 
about 40 miles and 1400 ft of climbing?

this covers most Historical parts and misses the big climb out of Castaic. 
 No food or  or water along this section.

~mike

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>
> 70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the foreseeable 
> future. Take lots of pictures!!!
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
>> since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
>>  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
>> lot of climbing. 
>> We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
>> mountains east of the Ridge Route.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
70 miles + climbing is more than I got in me, at least for the foreseeable
future. Take lots of pictures!!!


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

> I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there
> since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up
>  from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a
> lot of climbing.
> We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the
> mountains east of the Ridge Route.
>
> ~mike
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread hsmitham 
Yes that's correct. There's if I'm not mistaken a 17.5 mile section that 
was designated a historic route in 1997 but still closed pending repairs. I 
intend to explore it. 

>From the Ridge Route web page:

An Adventure Pass is NO LONGER REQUIRED. There are NO designated "Developed 
Campgrounds" along the Ridge Route. Areas without "Developed Campgrounds" 
are referred to as "Open & Despersed Areas."

"Open & Despersed Areas" allow camping.

This may be a S240 in the future.


Hugh

Sunland, CA

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>
> Old Ridge Route, that's the route I was trying to remember! There's an 
> attempt being made to designate it a historic route and keep it open.
> http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/13/local/la-me-ridge-route-20130113
> I'd very much like to ride it. Check it out and plan a ride for us!!!
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM, hsmitham 
> > wrote:
>
>> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
>> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
>> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
>> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
>> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
>> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
>> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
>> the feasibility and worthiness.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
>>> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
>>> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>>>
>>> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Sunland, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
 snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

 ~mike

 On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>
> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8502321862/
>
> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering 
> the ground... scary!)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
>> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give 
>> up 
>> those fat bikes.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>>
>>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
>>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread Mike Schiller 
I know the Old Ridge Route very well as I lived near there 
since Elementary School. It's a 70+ mile mostly paved loop all the way up 
 from Castaic, across Pine Canyon rd and then down Lake Hughes rd.  And a 
lot of climbing. 
We could do an up and back and/or add in some dirt roads that cross the 
mountains east of the Ridge Route.

~mike

>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
Old Ridge Route, that's the route I was trying to remember! There's an
attempt being made to designate it a historic route and keep it open.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/13/local/la-me-ridge-route-20130113
I'd very much like to ride it. Check it out and plan a ride for us!!!




On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM, hsmitham  wrote:

> By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge
> Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies
> from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a
> historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has
> disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something
> like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the
> weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on
> the feasibility and worthiness.
>
> ** **
>
> Hugh
>
> Sunland, CA
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked
>> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union
>> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>>
>> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>>
>>> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the
>>> snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:

 Yeah, snow bike for the win!
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8502321862/

 (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering
 the ground... scary!)


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> Jim:
>
> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus
> see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up
> those fat bikes.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
> Cyclery wrote:
>
>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>
>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the
>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread hsmitham 


By the by I been meaning to try out a ride from Castaic on the Old Ridge 
Route, which was the original route by the old timers bringing supplies 
from Bakersfield to Los Angeles, there's a 14 mile stretch designated a 
historical landmark and is closed to traffic, the old pavement has 
disintegrated and seems perfect for a mixed terrain ride it has something 
like 2500 to 3000’ elevation. I may ride it this coming Saturday if the 
weather cooperates and nothing on the calendar? If I do I'll report back on 
the feasibility and worthiness.

 

Hugh

Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:34:20 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> @ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked 
> me as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union 
> Station I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)
>
> @D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the 
>> snow is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>>>
>>> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering the 
>>> ground... scary!)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>>
 Jim:

 You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus 
 see that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up 
 those fat bikes.  

 dougP


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 Cyclery wrote:

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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread hsmitham 
@ Eric Man am I glad it's not 1994. Though some of the home boys tracked me 
as I was riding by. The Hilsen is a bit flashy, and while at Union Station 
I took the AHH with me in the restroom. Can't be too cafeful :)

@D yes that Pinzanita ride looks like a good pay off.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:20:34 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the snow 
> is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>
> ~mike
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>>
>> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering the 
>> ground... scary!)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> Jim:
>>>
>>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus see 
>>> that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up 
>>> those fat bikes.  
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>>> Cyclery wrote:
>>>
 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
H... The approach to the trailhead is a couple hours of spinning uphill
relentlessly with traffic passing you at 60mph. Great payoff when you get
off the hwy and onto the old road. Real nice climb up to Angelus Oaks.
Lunch up there at The Oaks restaurant, then a FAST downhill back to
civilization.


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

> hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the snow
> is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.
>
> ~mike
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8502321862/
>>
>> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering the
>> ground... scary!)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> Jim:
>>>
>>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus see
>>> that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up
>>> those fat bikes.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
>>> Cyclery wrote:
>>>
 I love your bike Hugh!

 Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the
 character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread Mike Schiller 
hey D, when are you going to have us up to ride that route?  When the snow 
is gone so we can ride the dirt and B4 the heat sets in please.

~mike

On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:41:39 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Yeah, snow bike for the win!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/
>
> (although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering the 
> ground... scary!)
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP >wrote:
>
>> Jim:
>>
>> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus see 
>> that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up 
>> those fat bikes.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
>> Cyclery wrote:
>>
>>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>>
>>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the 
>>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
Hey, I rode yesterday and it was all the way down to to 61F!!! That's
down-right dangerous weather!


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
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> One of the things I LOVE about the twin cities is that even in the worst
> weather, I can count on seeing people out riding bikes. Heck, even frozen
> lakes can be a good place to ride. I posted an invite on Facebook a couple
> days ago, and 4 friends showed up at my house this afternoon to ride off
> road in deep snow. Good times.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
Yeah, snow bike for the win!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8502321862/

(although I did turn around at the first site of solid snow covering the
ground... scary!)


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:40 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Jim:
>
> You are already such a character that you'd do fine in So Cal.  Plus see
> that pic from David of the Jack Browns in the snow?  You could give up
> those fat bikes.
>
> dougP
>
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> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:04:43 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
> Cyclery wrote:
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>> I love your bike Hugh!
>>
>> Sometimes I want to live in SoCal, but then I'd miss out on the
>> character-building adversity of Minnesota weather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread cyclotourist 
Word!


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Jack Browns in the snow!  We don't need to stinkin' fat bikes.  33.3
> mm is plenty wide enough.  Looks like fun.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:32:40 PM UTC-8, [email protected]:
>
>> And to make it a sunny SoCal trifecta, I'll add in that I had an
>> unplanned fantastic ride. Just hopped on the bike and headed uphill. A few
>> short hours later I'm in snow-country! http://www.flickr.com/photos/**
>> cyclotourist/8501214369/in/**photostream
>>
>> Felt great, so took the long way home. What a great day!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM, dougP  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the photos.  It was too nice a day to not ride.  We took the
>>> Atlantii & met a small group for a ride around OC, and one gal had a
>>> beautiful 650b Ramboullet.  So 3 Rivs out of a group of 9.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:35:19 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had
 to get out and ride on such a beautiful day.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**p**edalpusher61/sets/**721576328388**
 97525/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-24 Thread dougP 
Jack Browns in the snow!  We don't need to stinkin' fat bikes.  33.3 mm 
is plenty wide enough.  Looks like fun.  

dougP

On Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:32:40 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
>
> And to make it a sunny SoCal trifecta, I'll add in that I had an unplanned 
> fantastic ride. Just hopped on the bike and headed uphill. A few short 
> hours later I'm in snow-country! 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8501214369/in/photostream
>
> Felt great, so took the long way home. What a great day!
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM, dougP >wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the photos.  It was too nice a day to not ride.  We took the 
>> Atlantii & met a small group for a ride around OC, and one gal had a 
>> beautiful 650b Ramboullet.  So 3 Rivs out of a group of 9.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:35:19 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had to 
>>> get out and ride on such a beautiful day. 
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**pedalpusher61/sets/**72157632838897525/
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Sunland, Ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Urban Solo ride.

2013-02-23 Thread cyclotourist 
And to make it a sunny SoCal trifecta, I'll add in that I had an unplanned
fantastic ride. Just hopped on the bike and headed uphill. A few short
hours later I'm in snow-country!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8501214369/in/photostream

Felt great, so took the long way home. What a great day!


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Thanks for the photos.  It was too nice a day to not ride.  We took the
> Atlantii & met a small group for a ride around OC, and one gal had a
> beautiful 650b Ramboullet.  So 3 Rivs out of a group of 9.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Saturday, February 23, 2013 10:35:19 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Had a ride planned with another rider things just come up. I just had to
>> get out and ride on such a beautiful day.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**pedalpusher61/sets/**72157632838897525/
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, Ca
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