Re: [RBW] Re: NBD

2023-09-19 Thread Josh C
Thanks. It's a cool bike. Honestly, the best part may have been meeting the 
original owner, who looked eerily similar to myself and drove the same make 
vehicle btw. He was a super nice. We stood around in his garage for a short 
bit and chatted about Rivs and the city. He gave me a Rivendell coffee mug 
and some other bits. It was a very nice experience overall. I've had this 
experience more often than not with Riv people; they're a good lot, I'd say.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:30:03 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I saw this one too. Glad someone here got it. Beautiful bike ! 
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:54 AM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> A little larger:
>> [image: IMG_0632.jpeg][image: IMG_0631.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:52:43 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Saturday I saw the posting on one of the Rivendelll Facebook pages for 
>>> an Atlantis for sale. I click on the link and it’s local to me here in 
>>> Indianapolis. It was such a beautiful bike that I reached out to the seller 
>>> immediately. I don’t exactly have a need for this bike, per se, but I’m a 
>>> degenerate, so I offer him full asking price. I had picked up a night shift 
>>> at the hospital that night, so I asked if we could meet Sunday after I got 
>>> a few hours of shut eye.
>>>
>>> Sunday I was a bit too tired to get out and do much on four hours of 
>>> sleep, but did get out yesterday. I don’t live far from a rail trail that 
>>> spans over 26 miles from downtown Indianapolis north into the country. I 
>>> took this up a short bit and on the way back popped into the Indianapolis 
>>> Art Center’s Artspark to sit by the White River and relax a bit before 
>>> returning home. Naturally, I gathered up a few pictures of this beautiful 
>>> bike in this beautiful space.
>>>
>>> It’s a 59cm 2020 Atlantis. I didn’t change a thing, just put some air in 
>>> the tires and threw a small handlebar bag on to hold my junk as I rode.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0632.jpeg]
>>> Twisted House, by John McNaughton (2005)
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0631.jpeg]
>>> Log and river, by Mother Nature (2023)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-05 Thread Bob
Ted (Wood, rather than Durant, but he can read this too!),

I have—well, had, after today—the RH Humptulips, with the endurance casing, 
on another bike. Swapped tires today, and I can report that Humptulips *with 
endurance casing* measure 54 mm on Cliffhanger rims. RH says that their 
tires with extra-light casings are a millimeter or two wider than those 
with standard casing on the same rim. My guess is that what one gains in 
protection from the stiffer casing one loses in width, but not much.

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On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 11:43:22 AM UTC-6 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> So, I’m just going to say it. This is the reason I ditched 26” for mixed 
> surface riding. I was having trouble finding tires that I liked (but he SK+ 
> wasn’t available in 26” at the time). They were all really geared towards 
> knobby MTB applications and not hard pack / pavement mixed riding.
>
> That said, Vittoria Mezcals are available in 26x2.1, ETRTO 52-559 (52mm). 
> They might work for you. I ran them for a while on my Gus Boots when I 
> first built it and they were quite nice. I was running 29x2.6” which was 
> overkill for my use case, but they were very comfortable. They make a bit 
> more road noise than the SKs you have now but they still roll well on 
> pavement.
>
> The Humptulips are a solid choice as well. A friend of mine runs a similar 
> RH tire in their 27.5 variety (the name escapes me) and he loves them.
>
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bob  wrote:
>
>> Ted,
>>
>> Yes, I measure the angles at 73° for both seat and head tubes. Mind you, 
>> this is with my phone, but the feel of the riding position is akin to 
>> another bike that I know to be 73°/73°.
>>
>> This bike is closer to the AR specified in the RBW 1996 catalog (pp. 
>> 11–12) than to the AR in the first-generation geometry chart given in 
>> catalog no. 5 (summer 1999). But all photos of ARs I've seen have have 
>> double eyelets on the fork dropouts; mine has only fender eyelets on the 
>> back of the fork dropouts.
>>
>> --
>> Bob 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an 
>>> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it 
>>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an 
>>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but 
>>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've seen.
>>>
>>> Super short fork rake suggests Riv ATB, and it looks like the BB drop is 
>>> pretty shallow, too. But not as much top tube angle as I'd expect for an 
>>> ATB.  Head lugs match what were on my Riv ATB, built at Waterford around 
>>> '96 or so. Also, my ATB had vertical dropouts, where this one has short 
>>> horizontals.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-05 Thread Ted W
So, I’m just going to say it. This is the reason I ditched 26” for mixed
surface riding. I was having trouble finding tires that I liked (but he SK+
wasn’t available in 26” at the time). They were all really geared towards
knobby MTB applications and not hard pack / pavement mixed riding.

That said, Vittoria Mezcals are available in 26x2.1, ETRTO 52-559 (52mm).
They might work for you. I ran them for a while on my Gus Boots when I
first built it and they were quite nice. I was running 29x2.6” which was
overkill for my use case, but they were very comfortable. They make a bit
more road noise than the SKs you have now but they still roll well on
pavement.

The Humptulips are a solid choice as well. A friend of mine runs a similar
RH tire in their 27.5 variety (the name escapes me) and he loves them.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bob  wrote:

> Ted,
>
> Yes, I measure the angles at 73° for both seat and head tubes. Mind you,
> this is with my phone, but the feel of the riding position is akin to
> another bike that I know to be 73°/73°.
>
> This bike is closer to the AR specified in the RBW 1996 catalog (pp.
> 11–12) than to the AR in the first-generation geometry chart given in
> catalog no. 5 (summer 1999). But all photos of ARs I've seen have have
> double eyelets on the fork dropouts; mine has only fender eyelets on the
> back of the fork dropouts.
>
> --
> Bob
>
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 8:40:50 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 4:39:24 PM UTC-5 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an
>> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it
>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an
>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but
>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've seen.
>>
>> Super short fork rake suggests Riv ATB, and it looks like the BB drop is
>> pretty shallow, too. But not as much top tube angle as I'd expect for an
>> ATB.  Head lugs match what were on my Riv ATB, built at Waterford around
>> '96 or so. Also, my ATB had vertical dropouts, where this one has short
>> horizontals.
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Steven Sweedler
Beautiful bike, my favorite model in their best color. Enjoy. Steve

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 8:38 PM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> Well I love orange Riv's too.
>
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 8:30:48 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Johnny: I, too, love red Rivendells, but this one is orange. The light
>> did not cooperate today, I guess.
>>
>> Ryan: what I take to be a serial number is partially obscured by the
>> cable guide and by some touch-up paint. The visible portion appears to read
>> "9600," though the 9 and the terminal 0 may be different characters.
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:27:10 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats!! I love red Rivendells.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:17:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 It is an AR and I think you nailed it when you said it's a custom in
 the style of an AR. What's stamped on the bottom bracket?

 If you search the list you can find tips for decoding year and month it
 was built, but it should have builders initials (Match or JS-Joe Starck or
 CG Curt Goodrich or others)

 Lovely bike!

 On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:56:31 PM UTC-5 ride2almo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a
>> looker.
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last
>>> night.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9354.jpg]
>>>
>>> I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE
>>> group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the
>>> thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle
>>> Center on Balboa.
>>>
>>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as
>>> an All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, 
>>> though it
>>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an
>>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but
>>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've 
>>> seen.
>>>
>>> Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on
>>> a photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me
>>> more?
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9355.jpg]
>>>
>>> Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out
>>> to 56 mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks 
>>> this
>>> good but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try
>>> some RH Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm 
>>> narrower,
>>> so I expect some expansion.)
>>>
>>> Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I
>>> hadn't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Johnny Alien
Well I love orange Riv's too.


On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 8:30:48 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:

> Johnny: I, too, love red Rivendells, but this one is orange. The light did 
> not cooperate today, I guess.
>
> Ryan: what I take to be a serial number is partially obscured by the cable 
> guide and by some touch-up paint. The visible portion appears to read 
> "9600," though the 9 and the terminal 0 may be different characters.
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:27:10 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Congrats!! I love red Rivendells.
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:17:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> It is an AR and I think you nailed it when you said it's a custom in the 
>>> style of an AR. What's stamped on the bottom bracket?
>>>
>>> If you search the list you can find tips for decoding year and month it 
>>> was built, but it should have builders initials (Match or JS-Joe Starck or 
>>> CG Curt Goodrich or others)
>>>
>>> Lovely bike!
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:56:31 PM UTC-5 ride2almo...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!

 On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:

> I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a 
> looker. 
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last 
>> night.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9354.jpg]
>>
>> I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>> group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the 
>> thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle 
>> Center on Balboa.
>>
>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an 
>> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it 
>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an 
>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but 
>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've 
>> seen.
>>
>> Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on 
>> a photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me 
>> more?
>>
>> [image: IMG_9355.jpg]
>>
>> Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out to 
>> 56 mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks this 
>> good but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try 
>> some RH Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm 
>> narrower, 
>> so I expect some expansion.)
>>
>> Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I hadn't.
>>
>> --
>> Bob
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Bob
Johnny: I, too, love red Rivendells, but this one is orange. The light did 
not cooperate today, I guess.

Ryan: what I take to be a serial number is partially obscured by the cable 
guide and by some touch-up paint. The visible portion appears to read 
"9600," though the 9 and the terminal 0 may be different characters.

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:27:10 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Congrats!! I love red Rivendells.
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:17:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> It is an AR and I think you nailed it when you said it's a custom in the 
>> style of an AR. What's stamped on the bottom bracket?
>>
>> If you search the list you can find tips for decoding year and month it 
>> was built, but it should have builders initials (Match or JS-Joe Starck or 
>> CG Curt Goodrich or others)
>>
>> Lovely bike!
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:56:31 PM UTC-5 ride2almo...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:
>>>
 I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a 
 looker. 

 On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:

> In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last 
> night.
>
> [image: IMG_9354.jpg]
>
> I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
> group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the 
> thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle 
> Center on Balboa.
>
> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an 
> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it 
> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an 
> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but 
> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've 
> seen.
>
> Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on a 
> photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me 
> more?
>
> [image: IMG_9355.jpg]
>
> Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out to 
> 56 mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks this 
> good but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try 
> some RH Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm 
> narrower, 
> so I expect some expansion.)
>
> Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I hadn't.
>
> --
> Bob
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Johnny Alien
Congrats!! I love red Rivendells.

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 7:17:07 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> It is an AR and I think you nailed it when you said it's a custom in the 
> style of an AR. What's stamped on the bottom bracket?
>
> If you search the list you can find tips for decoding year and month it 
> was built, but it should have builders initials (Match or JS-Joe Starck or 
> CG Curt Goodrich or others)
>
> Lovely bike!
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:56:31 PM UTC-5 ride2almo...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a 
>>> looker. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last 
 night.

 [image: IMG_9354.jpg]

 I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
 group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the 
 thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle 
 Center on Balboa.

 The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an 
 All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it 
 may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an 
 All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but 
 without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've 
 seen.

 Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on a 
 photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me 
 more?

 [image: IMG_9355.jpg]

 Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out to 
 56 mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks this 
 good but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try 
 some RH Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm narrower, 
 so I expect some expansion.)

 Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I hadn't.

 --
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Ryan
It is an AR and I think you nailed it when you said it's a custom in the 
style of an AR. What's stamped on the bottom bracket?

If you search the list you can find tips for decoding year and month it was 
built, but it should have builders initials (Match or JS-Joe Starck or CG 
Curt Goodrich or others)

Lovely bike!

On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:56:31 PM UTC-5 ride2almo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:
>
>> I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a 
>> looker. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last 
>>> night.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9354.jpg]
>>>
>>> I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>>> group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the 
>>> thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle 
>>> Center on Balboa.
>>>
>>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an 
>>> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it 
>>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an 
>>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but 
>>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've seen.
>>>
>>> Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on a 
>>> photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me more?
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_9355.jpg]
>>>
>>> Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out to 56 
>>> mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks this good 
>>> but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try some RH 
>>> Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm narrower, so I 
>>> expect some expansion.)
>>>
>>> Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I hadn't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: showing off, and questions

2023-08-04 Thread Ian
Nice looking bike, that should open lots of riding opportunities!

On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 6:37 PM Josh C  wrote:

> I don't have any answers for you but congrats on the new bike, it's a
> looker.
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-4 rcook...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In fact Tuesday was NBD, but I didn't receive the saddle until last night.
>>
>> [image: IMG_9354.jpg]
>>
>> I bought this bike through the FB Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE
>> group. Shipped from San Francisco to Colorado by Bike Flights, with the
>> thoughtful and friendly help of Jay at Scenic Routes Community Bicycle
>> Center on Balboa.
>>
>> The seller, who is a group member here, too, described the bike as an
>> All-Rounder, and for the most part that's what it seems to be, though it
>> may be more accurate to say it is a custom in the style of an
>> All-Rounder—cantilever brakes, clearance for 2" tires, 26" wheels—but
>> without the bosses or eyelets for a front rack present on the ARs I've seen.
>>
>> Here is the headtube. I've only seen these understated lug points on a
>> photo, ca. 2007, of a custom Riv touring bike. Can anyone here tell me more?
>>
>> [image: IMG_9355.jpg]
>>
>> Clearance is a little tight for the Gravel King SK+, which pop out to 56
>> mm on the Cliffhanger rim. Can anyone suggest a tire that looks this good
>> but will only be, say, 53 mm on the Cliffhanger? (I'm going to try some RH
>> Humptulips Endurance, which are 52 mm, but on a rim 4 mm narrower, so I
>> expect some expansion.)
>>
>> Nice to have a Riv again. I sold my Homer in 2017 and I wish I hadn't.
>>
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>> Bob
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: Simple One

2021-07-17 Thread Doug H.
Patrick,
That makes sense and I think I attributed the low step off to saddle height
incorrectly. This Simple One is the best riding single speed I've tried! I
had a Wabi Classic for a while and the ride is so much better on the Riv.
I'll need to wrap the forward position of the handlebars tomorrow as I
found myself using that area during my ride, especially out of the saddle
uphill.
Doug

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 8:49 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This is one big advantage (but not the only one!) of Grant's penchant for
> large bb drop, which puts the bottom bracket, thus also pedals, closer to
> the ground. It's not the amount of seatpost showing (which doesn't affect
> the saddle height, all else equal) but the "drop"  or downward angle of the
> seatstays from rear dropouts to bottom bracket that allows this. In other
> words, Rivendells, at least those I've ridden, have the bottom brackets and
> pedals closer to the ground than other frames of similar sizes.
>
> I've gotten so used to Rivendell bb drop that riding other bikes with less
> bb drop, like my otherwise so unexceptionable Monocog 29er, always take a
> bit of re-habituation when I ride them after riding my Rivs and Riv copies.
>
> Doug H.  wrote:
>
>> ... there is very little seat-post exposed with the saddle height set for
>> me which I haven't experienced on other bikes. The advantage is that I can
>> put my feet on the ground with just a little lean when I stop.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: Simple One

2021-07-17 Thread Patrick Moore
This is one big advantage (but not the only one!) of Grant's penchant for
large bb drop, which puts the bottom bracket, thus also pedals, closer to
the ground. It's not the amount of seatpost showing (which doesn't affect
the saddle height, all else equal) but the "drop"  or downward angle of the
seatstays from rear dropouts to bottom bracket that allows this. In other
words, Rivendells, at least those I've ridden, have the bottom brackets and
pedals closer to the ground than other frames of similar sizes.

I've gotten so used to Rivendell bb drop that riding other bikes with less
bb drop, like my otherwise so unexceptionable Monocog 29er, always take a
bit of re-habituation when I ride them after riding my Rivs and Riv copies.

Doug H.  wrote:

> ... there is very little seat-post exposed with the saddle height set for
> me which I haven't experienced on other bikes. The advantage is that I can
> put my feet on the ground with just a little lean when I stop.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: NBD: Simple One

2021-07-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Nice, and congratulations on the find. The world needs, I say needs badly,
more fixed gear and single speed drivetrains.

Whatgearyourunning? Or, more seriously, what is your gearing?

I only have 1 fixed gear left -- used to have 3 or 4 in the stable -- tho'
I also have a single speed off road bike. The 2020 Matthews 2:1 road bike
was designed for both fixed and hub gear drivetrains, but the AM hub is so
nice (72-65-56 gear inches) that I've been riding it exclusively in
hub-gear-multispeed-freewheel mode, and my conscience is bothering me.

As for cantis versus V brakes: For braking bot powerful and very easily
modulated, the IRD wide profile cantis set up by Riv staff on my long-ago
Sam Hill even today are my braking benchmark. For ease of setup, Paul
cantilevers are, if anything, easier to set up than V brakes.

If only I could get V brake power with Paul Retro (front) and Touring
(rear) ease of setup. Still, the Pauls are hellalot better than the Tektros
they replaced.

Patrick Moore, who just got back from a casual, and very pleasant, if quite
hot, out-'n'-back on the Matthews 2:1.

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 5:12 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> I changed the cantilever brakes to V-brakes which I like better. I cannot
> get the cantilever brakes set up like I want. Also, I put Rivendell
> Chocomoose bars on it. So far I'm liking the ride although I plan to put
> wider tires on soon. The current tires are 28 mm.
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 3:55:37 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Doug! That is a beautiful and functional Simpleone. I bet
>> your shortish errand rides will turn into longer ones:-)
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 3:09:07 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's a nice bike! I can't ride singlespeed to save my life - Lord
>>> knows I've tried - but I love the Riv singles. Good score!
>>>
>>> Joe "gotta downshift" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:33:28 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 New to me bicycle day with pics to come later. I found a Simple One
 complete for sale and jumped on it. Thanks to Tim in Boston for the good
 deal (not sure if he's in this group). It is a 56 and fits well but there
 is very little seat-post exposed with the saddle height set for me which I
 haven't experienced on other bikes. The advantage is that I can put my feet
 on the ground with just a little lean when I stop. This will work great
 since I plan to use it for an around town errand bike. Anyway, I'll post a
 few pics tomorrow after I change out the handlebars but here is one as I
 bought it.
 Doug
 Athens, GA

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