Re: [RBW] Re: New SON 28 dynohub

2011-10-18 Thread René Sterental
Thanks Pierre!

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Pierre <[email protected]> wrote:

> René, my (limited) understanding is that you would choose SON28
> "old" (a.k.a. "classic") over SON28 "new" only for high(er) spoke
> count (40 and 48). The new version will be produced only in 32/36h and
> the older model continued only in 40/48h (see [1] - German, p.3.).
>
> So for your Dyad 36h, I do not see any reason to go *specifically* for
> the older-but-still-pretty-good model unless (i) you are time-
> constrained (ii) you are getting a good deal on the remaining SON28
> "classic" 36h (according to [1] the list price is 40 euros cheaper,
> that is for Europe of course).
>
> Pierre
>
> PS: To all, thank you for the feedback. SONdelux it will be.
>
> [1] http://www.nabendynamo.de/produkte/pdf/Lieferprogramm_Preise_2012.pdf
>
> On Oct 17, 4:12 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
> > I'm a bit confused... Is there any specific reason to choose the older
> > version over the newer one for a Dyad 36 wheel for the Hunqapillar for
> > all of its intended riding purposes?
> >
> > René
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 4
> >
> > On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 5:10 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > >> Would you recommend the Delux for a bike you intend to ride on gravel
> > >> roads?  (I do not mean single track or fire roads, or former logging
> > >> roads in an area that has been closed since a volcanic eruption over
> 30
> > >> years ago, but rather currently maintained, active, gravel roads.)
> >
> > > Yes, no problem. We all have the "Delux" on our 650B bikes, and we
> > > explore some pretty rough terrain. See the photo in this blog post...
> >
> > > Jan Heine
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Re: [RBW] Re: New SON 28 dynohub

2011-10-18 Thread René Sterental
Thank you. That clarifies the choices.

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Oct 18, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:

> On Oct 17, 7:12 am, René Sterental  wrote:
>> I'm a bit confused... Is there any specific reason to choose the older
>> version over the newer one for a Dyad 36 wheel for the Hunqapillar for
>> all of its intended riding purposes?
>
> There are four versions that you still may find in the trade:
>
> SON 28 old (classic): No reason to use this one over the others.
> SON 28 new: Good choice if you 1) need a bomb-proof wheel or 2) need
> to charge a lot of devices at low speed.
> SON 20 old: Good choice is you 1) want a bomb-proof wheel or 2) really
> hate vibrations when the light is on.
> SON delux (formerly 20R): Good choice in all other cases. Lightweight,
> plenty strong for most uses, plenty of light with modern LED lights.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New SON 28 dynohub

2011-10-17 Thread René Sterental
I'm a bit confused... Is there any specific reason to choose the older
version over the newer one for a Dyad 36 wheel for the Hunqapillar for
all of its intended riding purposes?

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:

> On Oct 15, 5:10 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> Would you recommend the Delux for a bike you intend to ride on gravel
>> roads?  (I do not mean single track or fire roads, or former logging
>> roads in an area that has been closed since a volcanic eruption over 30
>> years ago, but rather currently maintained, active, gravel roads.)
>
> Yes, no problem. We all have the "Delux" on our 650B bikes, and we
> explore some pretty rough terrain. See the photo in this blog post...
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> http://www.bikequarterly.com
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New SON 28 dynohub

2011-10-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 21:09 -0700, Philip Williamson wrote:
> How are maintained gravel roads different from fire/logging roads? In
> my experience, the only difference is that gravel roads have deeper
> gravel and more traffic. 

Where I live there are no "fire roads" or "logging roads," but looking
at pictures I get the impression that they are closer to what I know as
"Jeep tracks" than roads.  It seems to me four wheel drive vehicles are
absolutely required, not only for traction but for their high ground
clearance.  You can drive an ordinary car on the gravel roads I'm
talking about.



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Re: [RBW] Re: New SON 28 dynohub

2011-10-15 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 08:04 -0700, Jan Heine wrote:
> With modern LED lights, the SON28 really makes sense only if you need
> to charge GPS/cell phones while going slowly, or if you need a truly
> bombproof wheel. Otherwise, you should get the Delux (formerly SON 20
> R).
> 

Would you recommend the Delux for a bike you intend to ride on gravel
roads?  (I do not mean single track or fire roads, or former logging
roads in an area that has been closed since a volcanic eruption over 30
years ago, but rather currently maintained, active, gravel roads.)



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