Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O

2013-09-12 Thread Anne Paulson 
Bears are pretty shy initially, but if you happen to camp where the
bear has previously gotten food from some irresponsible previous
camper, that bear is likely to stick around and try to get your food
if it can. And I think if a bear has previously stolen food from
people, it starts to think people have food and it should stick around
and get it.

One benefit of using a bear keg or Ursack is raccoons can't get into
them either. And hungry raccoons are everywhere.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
> male bears will always run away - mama bears will never run away
>
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 10:13:09 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>>
>> Good to know. I do most of my camping in the Mt Hood NF and while there
>> are bears around I never really take any precautions other than not having
>> food in my tent. I think they're pretty shy and I've never seen any notices
>> at any of the campsites. I did see a bear last year. It ran across the road
>> when I was riding Larch Mtn with Andy. Really, I'm generally more worried
>> about raccoons or chipmunks getting into my food.
>>
>> --mike
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:23:43 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Black bears, yes. We had one tear apart our garage door last week to get
>>> trash in the bin inside (we forgot the trash guy comes a day later with a
>>> holiday).
>>>
>>> At least up the hill they are very shy of people. I see them on the edge
>>> of the woods usually and they run the other way. I've come upon them (nearly
>>> bumping into the rear of one) running barefoot. I'm silent and they just
>>> don't hear me. He looked back at me and casually ambled off. I have a "bear
>>> bag" made of kevlar that I tie to a tree for my food. Though this round I
>>> ended up fasting for a bit over 72 hours (though I had food) simply because
>>> I wasn't hungry. That was with 15 hours of hiking/biking/running. Here's a
>>> link to the sack: http://www.ursack.com
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:05:21 AM UTC-6, Mike wrote:

 Wow, that's beautiful country. Seems like a great time, solo in the
 woods for 2 nights. Glad to know the Sackville bags work well in the rain.
 I'm still contemplating the panniers but have yet to pull the trigger.

 I'm curious, are there bears in that neck of the woods? What do you do
 with your food?

 Thanks for posting the pictures.

 --mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O

2013-09-11 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Hey Bob. We live in Green Mountain Falls, about 7 miles uphill from 
Manitou. The flood took out 1.34 of the two bridges we can use to access 
our home (well, I can ride across both of them, but it's not safe for 
cars). The creek went from 4" to 12', spilling over the far bank from our 
house and flooding the town park (the construction I avoided was park 
restoration). It's amazing it didn't do more damage.

What's your interest in burn scars? (The fire came within a mile as the 
crow flies of our home last year), fortunately we're out of the burn scar 
drainage. When you do make it out here, holler my way.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:47:52 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> 200 year - are you in Manitou? We will talk about that one of these 
> days!  I had planned to be out in October to look at some streams in the 
> Waldo Canyon fire area and intended to find you. That is postponed for a 
> bit. Bob
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Yeah, even after the local "200 year flood" in the creek a few yards from 
>> our house a few weeks ago, I still love the rain. I guess I'm just a 
>> mountain bumpkin at heart. Grin. Though I'm baffled how they can call it a 
>> 200 year flood. Once you get past the time of keeping records, shouldn't 
>> you just call it a millennial flood for effect? Sardonic grin.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:20:37 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, as usual your pictures are beautiful and make me miss the 
>>> mountains. I hope the gray days gave you some comfort (your smile makes me 
>>> think they did!). Bob  
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
  Indeed! The way we say that here is "There's no such thing as bad 
 weather, only bad clothing."

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi 
 wrote:
>
> what an adventure and great pics. I guess it's true: weather's no 
> problem when you have the right clothes (and bike!).
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:58:09 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
>>
>> The hope was that getting away from the hustle and bustle of our wee 
>> town (700 year round residents) with a lot of construction going on 
>> would 
>> help me recover the "brain cushion" I'd lost over the past 
>> month 
>> (for a variety of reasons).
>>
>> My wife dropped me off at the base of Craigs Road (not sure what it's 
>> really called, but Craigs Campground is on it) and I rode to the single 
>> track 4 miles in. This was to save my brain from the long climb up Ute 
>> Pass 
>> on Hwy 24 with way too much traffic. After that, it was all amazing 
>> single 
>> track, with a bit of LCG (lowest common gear: walking), especially with 
>> gear for up to five nights (I wasn't sure how long I'd stay in). This is 
>> the kind of single track that is sheer fun to ride. Short stretches of 
>> smooth easy, mostly either climbing or descending, rooty and rocky. 
>> Riding 
>> it loaded puts the riding skills to the test! 
>>
>> Camped Northwest of Sentinel Peak 12,500ish feet), on the Western 
>> tail of Pikes Peak. Rained steadily both nights, but day one and two 
>> were 
>> rain free. Day three was steady rain for all but 15 minutes. Hilltrek 
>> Cotton Analogy once again proves it's worth: riding and hiking and 
>> running 
>> and never getting wet inside, either from sweat or rain. Beautiful!
>>
>> I returned home via Hwy 24 (descents are much faster and I mostly 
>> keep up with traffic, so noise is less of a brain risk). It's always 
>> wonderful to return home on my own power, brain cushion greatly 
>> increased.
>>
>> I have to say the Sackville bags continue to do wonderfully in the 
>> rain. I do not double bag anything and it all stays dry even in day long 
>> (or multi-day long rain). Also, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy gear (jacket, 
>> breeches, gators) continue to work beautifully: not wet from sweat or 
>> rain 
>> -- impressive considering my exertion level returning home and the the 
>> precipitation rate. 
>>
>> Photos here...
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**3**2311885@N07/sets/**7215763548225**
>> 1165/
>>  
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Barr 
200 year - are you in Manitou? We will talk about that one of these
days!  I had planned to be out in October to look at some streams in the
Waldo Canyon fire area and intended to find you. That is postponed for a
bit. Bob


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Yeah, even after the local "200 year flood" in the creek a few yards from
> our house a few weeks ago, I still love the rain. I guess I'm just a
> mountain bumpkin at heart. Grin. Though I'm baffled how they can call it a
> 200 year flood. Once you get past the time of keeping records, shouldn't
> you just call it a millennial flood for effect? Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:20:37 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
>
>> Patrick, as usual your pictures are beautiful and make me miss the
>> mountains. I hope the gray days gave you some comfort (your smile makes me
>> think they did!). Bob
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed! The way we say that here is "There's no such thing as bad
>>> weather, only bad clothing."
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 what an adventure and great pics. I guess it's true: weather's no
 problem when you have the right clothes (and bike!).



 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:58:09 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> The hope was that getting away from the hustle and bustle of our wee
> town (700 year round residents) with a lot of construction going on would
> help me recover the "brain cushion" I'd lost over the past month
> (for a variety of reasons).
>
> My wife dropped me off at the base of Craigs Road (not sure what it's
> really called, but Craigs Campground is on it) and I rode to the single
> track 4 miles in. This was to save my brain from the long climb up Ute 
> Pass
> on Hwy 24 with way too much traffic. After that, it was all amazing single
> track, with a bit of LCG (lowest common gear: walking), especially with
> gear for up to five nights (I wasn't sure how long I'd stay in). This is
> the kind of single track that is sheer fun to ride. Short stretches of
> smooth easy, mostly either climbing or descending, rooty and rocky. Riding
> it loaded puts the riding skills to the test!
>
> Camped Northwest of Sentinel Peak 12,500ish feet), on the Western tail
> of Pikes Peak. Rained steadily both nights, but day one and two were rain
> free. Day three was steady rain for all but 15 minutes. Hilltrek Cotton
> Analogy once again proves it's worth: riding and hiking and running and
> never getting wet inside, either from sweat or rain. Beautiful!
>
> I returned home via Hwy 24 (descents are much faster and I mostly keep
> up with traffic, so noise is less of a brain risk). It's always wonderful
> to return home on my own power, brain cushion greatly increased.
>
> I have to say the Sackville bags continue to do wonderfully in the
> rain. I do not double bag anything and it all stays dry even in day long
> (or multi-day long rain). Also, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy gear (jacket,
> breeches, gators) continue to work beautifully: not wet from sweat or rain
> -- impressive considering my exertion level returning home and the the
> precipitation rate.
>
> Photos here...
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**3**2311885@N07/sets/**7215763548225**
> 1165/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O

2013-09-11 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Yeah, even after the local "200 year flood" in the creek a few yards from 
our house a few weeks ago, I still love the rain. I guess I'm just a 
mountain bumpkin at heart. Grin. Though I'm baffled how they can call it a 
200 year flood. Once you get past the time of keeping records, shouldn't 
you just call it a millennial flood for effect? Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:20:37 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> Patrick, as usual your pictures are beautiful and make me miss the 
> mountains. I hope the gray days gave you some comfort (your smile makes me 
> think they did!). Bob  
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Indeed! The way we say that here is "There's no such thing as bad 
>> weather, only bad clothing."
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
>>> what an adventure and great pics. I guess it's true: weather's no 
>>> problem when you have the right clothes (and bike!).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:58:09 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 The hope was that getting away from the hustle and bustle of our wee 
 town (700 year round residents) with a lot of construction going on would 
 help me recover the "brain cushion" I'd lost over the past month 
 (for a variety of reasons).

 My wife dropped me off at the base of Craigs Road (not sure what it's 
 really called, but Craigs Campground is on it) and I rode to the single 
 track 4 miles in. This was to save my brain from the long climb up Ute 
 Pass 
 on Hwy 24 with way too much traffic. After that, it was all amazing single 
 track, with a bit of LCG (lowest common gear: walking), especially with 
 gear for up to five nights (I wasn't sure how long I'd stay in). This is 
 the kind of single track that is sheer fun to ride. Short stretches of 
 smooth easy, mostly either climbing or descending, rooty and rocky. Riding 
 it loaded puts the riding skills to the test! 

 Camped Northwest of Sentinel Peak 12,500ish feet), on the Western tail 
 of Pikes Peak. Rained steadily both nights, but day one and two were rain 
 free. Day three was steady rain for all but 15 minutes. Hilltrek Cotton 
 Analogy once again proves it's worth: riding and hiking and running and 
 never getting wet inside, either from sweat or rain. Beautiful!

 I returned home via Hwy 24 (descents are much faster and I mostly keep 
 up with traffic, so noise is less of a brain risk). It's always wonderful 
 to return home on my own power, brain cushion greatly increased.

 I have to say the Sackville bags continue to do wonderfully in the 
 rain. I do not double bag anything and it all stays dry even in day long 
 (or multi-day long rain). Also, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy gear (jacket, 
 breeches, gators) continue to work beautifully: not wet from sweat or rain 
 -- impressive considering my exertion level returning home and the the 
 precipitation rate. 

 Photos here...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**32311885@N07/sets/**72157635482251165/
  
 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S72O

2013-09-11 Thread Robert Barr 
Patrick, as usual your pictures are beautiful and make me miss the
mountains. I hope the gray days gave you some comfort (your smile makes me
think they did!). Bob


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Indeed! The way we say that here is "There's no such thing as bad weather,
> only bad clothing."
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:59:09 PM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> what an adventure and great pics. I guess it's true: weather's no problem
>> when you have the right clothes (and bike!).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:58:09 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> The hope was that getting away from the hustle and bustle of our wee
>>> town (700 year round residents) with a lot of construction going on would
>>> help me recover the "brain cushion" I'd lost over the past month
>>> (for a variety of reasons).
>>>
>>> My wife dropped me off at the base of Craigs Road (not sure what it's
>>> really called, but Craigs Campground is on it) and I rode to the single
>>> track 4 miles in. This was to save my brain from the long climb up Ute Pass
>>> on Hwy 24 with way too much traffic. After that, it was all amazing single
>>> track, with a bit of LCG (lowest common gear: walking), especially with
>>> gear for up to five nights (I wasn't sure how long I'd stay in). This is
>>> the kind of single track that is sheer fun to ride. Short stretches of
>>> smooth easy, mostly either climbing or descending, rooty and rocky. Riding
>>> it loaded puts the riding skills to the test!
>>>
>>> Camped Northwest of Sentinel Peak 12,500ish feet), on the Western tail
>>> of Pikes Peak. Rained steadily both nights, but day one and two were rain
>>> free. Day three was steady rain for all but 15 minutes. Hilltrek Cotton
>>> Analogy once again proves it's worth: riding and hiking and running and
>>> never getting wet inside, either from sweat or rain. Beautiful!
>>>
>>> I returned home via Hwy 24 (descents are much faster and I mostly keep
>>> up with traffic, so noise is less of a brain risk). It's always wonderful
>>> to return home on my own power, brain cushion greatly increased.
>>>
>>> I have to say the Sackville bags continue to do wonderfully in the rain.
>>> I do not double bag anything and it all stays dry even in day long (or
>>> multi-day long rain). Also, Hilltrek's Cotton Analogy gear (jacket,
>>> breeches, gators) continue to work beautifully: not wet from sweat or rain
>>> -- impressive considering my exertion level returning home and the the
>>> precipitation rate.
>>>
>>> Photos here...
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**32311885@N07/sets/**72157635482251165/
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
>>>
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