RE: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-06 Thread olofstroh 

https://www.google.se/search?q=bicycle+skirt+guard&biw=1920&bih=949&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjI7cma5MXMAhUHZCwKHdbiBoEQsAQIGg
 

https://www.google.se/search?q=cykel+kjolskydd&biw=1920&bih=949&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS7qrR5MXMAhVFYJoKHW__BfsQsAQIIQ

there are many good ways.

Olof

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-06 Thread Steve Palincsar 



On 05/06/2016 10:07 AM, Leif Eckstrom wrote:


Thanks for the shield suggestions. Early planning included the idea 
for chloroplast shields zip tied to bike and rack struts, but nicer 
weather prevailed.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroplast


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-06 Thread Shoji Takahashi 
Since it turned out alright, I'd call it beausage! 
I recall Smitty constructing a super-nice, wooden 3-piece "cover" for Nitto 
big rack to carry his kids. Maybe someone has the link to the flickr pic?

shoji


On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 12:32:39 AM UTC-4, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> Putting my foot into the wheel riding on the rear rack in 1946 and still 
> wearing the scars to show it I strongly support a shield.
>
>  
>
> Gratefully though the foot have worked fine all my life and I am of course 
> the tougher man with those scars.
>
>  
>
> Olof „marked for life“ Stroh
>
> Uppsala Sweden
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected]  [mailto:
> [email protected] ] *On Behalf Of *Tim Gavin
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:24 PM
> *To:* [email protected] 
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans 
> set
>
>  
>
> Nice job! 
>
>  
>
> I do recommend some sort of shield behind the pegs on the rear rack, to 
> prevent the rear kiddo from inadvertently putting her toe into the spokes.
>
>  
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, [email protected]  <
> [email protected] > wrote:
>
> Does it come with the above-mentioned pants?
>
>  
>
> Really cool hack Leif!!!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Leif Eckstrom wrote:
>
> Hello listers,
>
>  
>
> I wanted to share this kid-hauling project that was inspired by ideas and 
> goods presented on this list, the blug, and such. I'm really happy with how 
> it turned out. It's very comfortable, surprisingly steady, and heartily 
> kid-approved. I think this set-up would only be improved on a bike with 
> actual riv-designed features: Looong top tube and longer wheelbase, for 
> starters. My seat is set low to compensate for small amount of clearance 
> behind the kid in front. Not really much of an imposition though; this is 
> easily my best minivan yet. Nevertheless, the stretched Clems and 
> Appaloosas would be even better, I imagine. 
>
>  
>
> Anyway, if you're interested in what's what:
>
> Front carrier: iBert, also recommend the Tot toter, if just carrying one.
>
> Rear: steel tandem stoker stem bought from list-member Sean (thanks 
> again!); old riser bars cut down for aero tucks; Newbaums in kid A's 
> favorite color (eggplant); (bar-ends have been appropriately corked by the 
> by; twine to be applied soon); swim noodle and zip ties--totally stolen 
> from Grant P or whoever thought of those ideas in the bar wrap vid--but in 
> celeste, the fastest color; older Portland Design Works Payload rack with 
> steel tubes and a nicely oversize, half-circle of extra tubing near the 
> bottom--designed for bungee or pannier attachment but here holds the fender 
> washers, bolt, and drilled n cut down hand rail segments, making the new 
> old-school foot pegs. Naturally, the pegs were shellacked. I think that's 
> it. Thanks for all the inspiration, ideas, and parts swapping over the 
> years. 
>
> Best,
>
> Leif
>
> Chicago
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RE: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-05 Thread olofstroh 
Putting my foot into the wheel riding on the rear rack in 1946 and still 
wearing the scars to show it I strongly support a shield.

 

Gratefully though the foot have worked fine all my life and I am of course the 
tougher man with those scars.

 

Olof „marked for life“ Stroh

Uppsala Sweden

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Gavin
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

 

Nice job! 

 

I do recommend some sort of shield behind the pegs on the rear rack, to prevent 
the rear kiddo from inadvertently putting her toe into the spokes.

 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, [email protected]  
wrote:

Does it come with the above-mentioned pants?

 

Really cool hack Leif!!!



On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Leif Eckstrom wrote:

Hello listers,

 

I wanted to share this kid-hauling project that was inspired by ideas and goods 
presented on this list, the blug, and such. I'm really happy with how it turned 
out. It's very comfortable, surprisingly steady, and heartily kid-approved. I 
think this set-up would only be improved on a bike with actual riv-designed 
features: Looong top tube and longer wheelbase, for starters. My seat is set 
low to compensate for small amount of clearance behind the kid in front. Not 
really much of an imposition though; this is easily my best minivan yet. 
Nevertheless, the stretched Clems and Appaloosas would be even better, I 
imagine. 

 

Anyway, if you're interested in what's what:

Front carrier: iBert, also recommend the Tot toter, if just carrying one.

Rear: steel tandem stoker stem bought from list-member Sean (thanks again!); 
old riser bars cut down for aero tucks; Newbaums in kid A's favorite color 
(eggplant); (bar-ends have been appropriately corked by the by; twine to be 
applied soon); swim noodle and zip ties--totally stolen from Grant P or whoever 
thought of those ideas in the bar wrap vid--but in celeste, the fastest color; 
older Portland Design Works Payload rack with steel tubes and a nicely 
oversize, half-circle of extra tubing near the bottom--designed for bungee or 
pannier attachment but here holds the fender washers, bolt, and drilled n cut 
down hand rail segments, making the new old-school foot pegs. Naturally, the 
pegs were shellacked. I think that's it. Thanks for all the inspiration, ideas, 
and parts swapping over the years. 

Best,

Leif

Chicago

 

 

 

 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-05 Thread Patrick Moore 
The photo of the 3 of you on the bike is very cute. As the kiddos get
bigger, you can put them into a doublewide trailer. At least around here in
ABQ, NM, used trailers are easy to find on Craigslist and in bike shops
that do consignments.

10-12 years ago, when Catie was 2-3-4, our Saturday morning routine
included a bike ride with the trailer, stopping at the nearby dollar store
for a balloon or 2. The puller bike was a rather nice, if heavy, early
Raleigh Technium with lng stays and room for fat, white Conti 32s, and
a 67 or 68" gear. Great fun, and a great workout pulling the doublewide
(room for groceries and daughter) against a NM headwind.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-05 Thread Deacon Patrick 
Panniers work great as a shield! (And I used them as the "cushion" on the 
rack also). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:24:30 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Nice job! 
>
> I do recommend some sort of shield behind the pegs on the rear rack, to 
> prevent the rear kiddo from inadvertently putting her toe into the spokes.
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, [email protected]  <
> [email protected] > wrote:
>
>> Does it come with the above-mentioned pants?
>>
>> Really cool hack Leif!!!
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Leif Eckstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Hello listers,
>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted to share this kid-hauling project that was inspired by ideas 
>>> and goods presented on this list, the blug, and such. I'm really happy with 
>>> how it turned out. It's very comfortable, surprisingly steady, and heartily 
>>> kid-approved. I think this set-up would only be improved on a bike with 
>>> actual riv-designed features: Looong top tube and longer wheelbase, for 
>>> starters. My seat is set low to compensate for small amount of clearance 
>>> behind the kid in front. Not really much of an imposition though; this is 
>>> easily my best minivan yet. Nevertheless, the stretched Clems and 
>>> Appaloosas would be even better, I imagine. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you're interested in what's what:
>>>
>>> Front carrier: iBert, also recommend the Tot toter, if just carrying one.
>>>
>>> Rear: steel tandem stoker stem bought from list-member Sean (thanks 
>>> again!); old riser bars cut down for aero tucks; Newbaums in kid A's 
>>> favorite color (eggplant); (bar-ends have been appropriately corked by the 
>>> by; twine to be applied soon); swim noodle and zip ties--totally stolen 
>>> from Grant P or whoever thought of those ideas in the bar wrap vid--but in 
>>> celeste, the fastest color; older Portland Design Works Payload rack with 
>>> steel tubes and a nicely oversize, half-circle of extra tubing near the 
>>> bottom--designed for bungee or pannier attachment but here holds the fender 
>>> washers, bolt, and drilled n cut down hand rail segments, making the new 
>>> old-school foot pegs. Naturally, the pegs were shellacked. I think that's 
>>> it. Thanks for all the inspiration, ideas, and parts swapping over the 
>>> years. 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Leif
>>>
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv-ish minivan hack for the dad- and mom-jeans set

2016-05-05 Thread Tim Gavin 
Nice job!

I do recommend some sort of shield behind the pegs on the rear rack, to
prevent the rear kiddo from inadvertently putting her toe into the spokes.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Does it come with the above-mentioned pants?
>
> Really cool hack Leif!!!
>
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 12:47:00 PM UTC-7, Leif Eckstrom wrote:
>
>> Hello listers,
>>
>>
>> I wanted to share this kid-hauling project that was inspired by ideas and
>> goods presented on this list, the blug, and such. I'm really happy with how
>> it turned out. It's very comfortable, surprisingly steady, and heartily
>> kid-approved. I think this set-up would only be improved on a bike with
>> actual riv-designed features: Looong top tube and longer wheelbase, for
>> starters. My seat is set low to compensate for small amount of clearance
>> behind the kid in front. Not really much of an imposition though; this is
>> easily my best minivan yet. Nevertheless, the stretched Clems and
>> Appaloosas would be even better, I imagine.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, if you're interested in what's what:
>>
>> Front carrier: iBert, also recommend the Tot toter, if just carrying one.
>>
>> Rear: steel tandem stoker stem bought from list-member Sean (thanks
>> again!); old riser bars cut down for aero tucks; Newbaums in kid A's
>> favorite color (eggplant); (bar-ends have been appropriately corked by the
>> by; twine to be applied soon); swim noodle and zip ties--totally stolen
>> from Grant P or whoever thought of those ideas in the bar wrap vid--but in
>> celeste, the fastest color; older Portland Design Works Payload rack with
>> steel tubes and a nicely oversize, half-circle of extra tubing near the
>> bottom--designed for bungee or pannier attachment but here holds the fender
>> washers, bolt, and drilled n cut down hand rail segments, making the new
>> old-school foot pegs. Naturally, the pegs were shellacked. I think that's
>> it. Thanks for all the inspiration, ideas, and parts swapping over the
>> years.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Leif
>>
>> Chicago
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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