Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I think it's simply that his market demands this sort of tire. And I think
that there is a rather big demand for fat, supple 29er tires; I predict
these will be best sellers.

I both agree and disagree with Jan's views on wheel size, tire width, and
handling, meaning that "optimum" in reference to handling is a word that
has to accommodate so many different preferences. I can certainly tell the
difference between a 26er with light 55 mm tires, and my Matthews with 29
1/2" tall, 61mm actually wide tires; but given that these last seem to me
to handle sand (and small bumps too) better (Jan disagrees), I choose the
less nimble handling larger wheels, and find that these are really not bad
at all.

On the other extreme: very light, 24 3/4" (559 X 29mm) wheels on my Riv
Roads: is the handling of these wheels less "optimum" than 650B X 42?
Perhaps to some riders; perhaps even generally, in some theoretical way;
but in my own experience over very many different bikes over almost 50
years of assembling or modifying (and certainly buying and flipping) my
own, they set a benchmark for good handling -- Grant designed the frames to
accommodate such light and short wheels.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Kieran J  wrote:

> He certainly did say that at some point. I think that was even prior to
> the 700x44 came out. Maybe his views have changed.
>
> Apart from Rivs and monstercross-type bikes, what else would these tires
> go on? 29ers? Seems like a very niche-within-niche product.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:25:57 AM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> I'm really excited about these new tires, but I thought Jan believed 700c
>> tires this wide were less than optimal. Has he said anything about changing
>> his view, or am I just completely confused and off base here?
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post
>>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting
>>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito Ca
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seen on My instagram: 700x55 Compass slicks

2018-04-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Well, it seems you do miss some things when you forgo social media. I'll be
interested when a description (and a photo! I wonder if it will seem as
pneumatic as the Rat Trap Pass?) appears on more retrograde platforms.

Jan mentioned a tire like this some time ago, but when I inquired late last
year about any forthcoming >=50 mm Compass tire, I got no response, so I
went ahead and bought some Big Ones. I'd almost be disappointed, were the
Big Ones not so delightful (one rolldown test showed the BOs faster than
the road tires tested, and this with tubes). But I'd be interested to learn
more about the Compass 29er tire

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:40 AM, John Phillips  wrote:

> 700 x 55 Compass tires?!?! Oh my Lord, heaven on earth!
>
> Maybe 700 x 55mm Compass knobbies are in the works?
>
> John
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 6:14:34 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Compass posted a photo of a 700x55 Antelope Pass road tire. The post
>> called it a prototype currently under test. That’s going to be an exciting
>> option for many. Who’s going to put them on their Hunqapillar first?
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito Ca
>
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