Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottle and Cage Talk

2021-06-06 Thread Jay Lonner 
The cold shock response from sudden immersion is a recognized phenomenon that 
is emphasized a lot in boating safety courses, hence the mantra “dress for the 
water, not the weather.” I’m not aware of a similar danger from drinking cold 
water, although so-called ice cream headache is possibility…

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

Sent from my Atari 400

> On Jun 6, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> And I specifically avoid insulated water bottles because someone convinced 
> me once that cold water, particularly on a hot day, is a shock to the system. 
> Can anyone confirm or deny?
> -Kai
> 
>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 8:03:39 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>> Because running low on water stinks, I use a 48oz nalgene bottle in my 
>> Mojave cage with a 32oz backup in the summer or on a longer ride. Works well 
>> in my large triangles, maybe less so on smaller frames. The larger bottle 
>> also provides a little more space to blame for the weight of my bikes. 
>> Fact is, every $375 spent on titanium hardware gets you an extra oz of 
>> balanced h2o capacity. 
>> Currently at zero titanium, and coffee goes in the insulated Kleen Kanteen 
>> in the bag, 32oz giving me two large coffees at work (c.r.e.a.m. lives in 
>> the work fridge)
>> -Kai
>> 
>>> On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I've always used standard size bottle cages and uninsulated bottles. But, 
>>> I'm intrigued by the Velo Orange Mojave large cage that holds their 32 oz 
>>> Nalgene and 32 oz insulated Klean Kanteen bottles. On long rides I will 
>>> take two 20 oz bottles but usually have some left so one 32 might do for 
>>> longish rides (30 miles or so). I'm looking for others' bottle setups and 
>>> opinions.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water (bottle) Retention

2014-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore 
Why not try some of the better designed and constructed nylon or whatever
cages? I've got four on my Fargo made of heavy, tough, thick black plastic
and designed with an interrupted ring to grab the bottle. They don't drop
bottles even at 30 mph on terrible washboard, and no straps needed.

FWIW: I broke 2 of the very pretty Nitto "Butterfly" cages carrying large
double-walled bottles (32 oz, IIRC). The brazing was just not up to the
weight and stress. The Irises that replaced them (this on my road bikes)
haven't broken yet; they are not as shiny -- or as expensive -- but, IMO,
are the better cages.


On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:23:08 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

— can Stainless bottles work in a King Cage standard or do I need the Iris?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Water (bottle) Retention

2014-11-04 Thread Jim Bronson 
I like the Iris on my bike that never goes off-road.  I never have to worry
about the bottle being askew and bumping my leg.
On Nov 4, 2014 1:23 PM, "john muhl"  wrote:

> On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:23:08 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> As I replace my two bottles that died on today’s ride I’m going with
>> stainless steel. I’d love to hear your experience with the following:
>>
>> — preferred brand stainless bottle and why?
>>
>
> Klean Kanteen insulated 20oz bottles. They keep things colder longer than
> Polar bottles and will last longer than I will; never tried keeping hot
> stuff in either but I’d guess the KK keeps things hotter longer as well.
>
>
>> — can Stainless bottles work in a King Cage standard or do I need the
>> Iris?
>>
>
> Not sure. I switched to Iris cages before changing bottles since the
> standard King cage was so awful off-road. After using both I’d recommend
> switching anything that isn’t a dedicated paved-road bike to the Iris.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water (bottle) Retention

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Chen 
And I've seen how Zack rides his bike. He's mean.

looking, anyway.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Zack  wrote:

> The iris holds steel kleen kanteens like a champ.  i have never had a
> Kleen Kanteen bounce out.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water (bottle) Retention

2014-11-04 Thread Chris Chen 
The iris is just so damned beautiful too.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM, john muhl  wrote:

> On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:23:08 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> As I replace my two bottles that died on today’s ride I’m going with
>> stainless steel. I’d love to hear your experience with the following:
>>
>> — preferred brand stainless bottle and why?
>>
>
> Klean Kanteen insulated 20oz bottles. They keep things colder longer than
> Polar bottles and will last longer than I will; never tried keeping hot
> stuff in either but I’d guess the KK keeps things hotter longer as well.
>
>
>> — can Stainless bottles work in a King Cage standard or do I need the
>> Iris?
>>
>
> Not sure. I switched to Iris cages before changing bottles since the
> standard King cage was so awful off-road. After using both I’d recommend
> switching anything that isn’t a dedicated paved-road bike to the Iris.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-17 Thread David Yu Greenblatt 
I like the CamelBak Podium bottles, too, but when riding off road here in
dry-n-dusty SoCal there is nothing to prevent powdered horse and catamount
dung from collecting at the orifice of the valve. Anybody try a Podium Mud
Cap?
http://shop.camelbak.com/podium-mud-cap/d/1044_c_328_cl_381

- David G in San Diego





On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
> Camelback Podium bottles for me.  It's the ease of drinking that does
> it.  Just squeeze the bottle and squirt into your mouth. In the cap is a
> cool little bladder, called a Jet Valve,  that only opens when the bottle
> is squeezed and is closed otherwise, so no more fiddle around with opening
> valves :)   It's quite brilliant !
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-16 Thread Bill Gibson 
Perfectly good feeder bottles by the side of the road? That says something 
about the neighborhood! Oh, the tales we could tell of what we've found by the 
side of the road!

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 16, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
> 
> Good idea.  I have seen some brand new bottles dropped by the side of the 
> road on charity rides.  I keep thinking I should pick them up and take them 
> home.
> 
> Oh and, another vote for the Camelback Podium.  Much easier than standard 
> bottles.
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2014 12:08 PM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:
>> I have two that I use--like them a lot.
>> 
>> Interestingly, both were found by the side of the road and put through a few 
>> dishwasher cycles. I haven't had to buy one yet.
>> 
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Neil  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Another vote for Podium bottles. They've been my go-to for years now. I 
>>> like the Kleen Canteens, but as others have stated, no squeezability and no 
>>> drinking valve make it a tough choice for riding.
>>> 
 On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:28:27 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
 Thought this might be of interest to the group. They tested 50 different 
 water bottles and came of with their top rankings:
 
 http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-water-bottle/ 
 
 --Eric Norris
 [email protected]
 www.campyonly.com
 campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-16 Thread Jim Bronson 
Good idea.  I have seen some brand new bottles dropped by the side of the
road on charity rides.  I keep thinking I should pick them up and take them
home.

Oh and, another vote for the Camelback Podium.  Much easier than standard
bottles.
On Aug 15, 2014 12:08 PM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:

> I have two that I use--like them a lot.
>
> Interestingly, both were found by the side of the road and put through a
> few dishwasher cycles. I haven't had to buy one yet.
>
> --Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Neil  wrote:
>
> Another vote for Podium bottles. They've been my go-to for years now. I
> like the Kleen Canteens, but as others have stated, no squeezability and no
> drinking valve make it a tough choice for riding.
>
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:28:27 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Thought this might be of interest to the group. They tested 50 different
>> water bottles and came of with their top rankings:
>>
>> http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-water-bottle/
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> [email protected]
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-15 Thread Eric Norris 
I have two that I use--like them a lot.

Interestingly, both were found by the side of the road and put through a few 
dishwasher cycles. I haven't had to buy one yet.

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Neil  wrote:
> 
> Another vote for Podium bottles. They've been my go-to for years now. I like 
> the Kleen Canteens, but as others have stated, no squeezability and no 
> drinking valve make it a tough choice for riding.
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 8:28:27 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Thought this might be of interest to the group. They tested 50 different 
>> water bottles and came of with their top rankings:
>> 
>> http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-water-bottle/ 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> [email protected]
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-12 Thread Goshen Peter 
my wife carries the podium ice with her at all times, says its the only one
that doesn't sweat everywhere when there is cold stuff inside.


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Garth  wrote:

>
> Camelback Podium bottles for me.  It's the ease of drinking that does
> it.  Just squeeze the bottle and squirt into your mouth. In the cap is a
> cool little bladder, called a Jet Valve,  that only opens when the bottle
> is squeezed and is closed otherwise, so no more fiddle around with opening
> valves :)   It's quite brilliant !
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water Bottles Tested and Rated

2014-08-12 Thread Goshen Peter 
hmm, i rode with my klean canteen for a bit but non insulated, no squeezing
and a screw off cap made it a non starter really. I see now they have a
variety of caps but man the water got hot fast, even with ice cubes.


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> thanks for the link, but I'm amazed that none of my bottles are there.
>  There must be just too many choices available.
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:28:27 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
>> Thought this might be of interest to the group. They tested 50 different
>> water bottles and came of with their top rankings:
>>
>> http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-water-bottle/
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> [email protected]
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-24 Thread Shoji Takahashi 
Hi Jim,
Agreed on the Valgan... wow. Great attention to details on the build, too. 

>From the photostream, it's seat tube is 58.5 
c-c. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
He also writes: the stand-over height (on 700Cx25mm tires) is a full 840 mm 
(33")

--shoji


On Monday, June 24, 2013 3:59:27 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:
>
> Both of those are beautiful bikes, but the Vangal is, in my opinion, on an 
> entirely different order of beautiful. Any idea what it sold for new in the 
> '70's or what size it is?
>
> Jim D.Massaachusetts
>
> On Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:45:28 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Here are links to Bob's Vangal "Chambord" (not "Champion").
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8120162907/in/set-72157602257150196/lightbox/
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483723440/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1482953579/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483728740/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
>>
>> The Sumitomo (gawd, that's a beautiful bike -- Riv content? A new 
>> standard or benchmark for Riv bikes, or simply excellentissimum 
>> workmanship).
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4040453738/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432593943/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1433458884/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1436932752/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3733531742/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8885631828/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432704299/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4039707011/in/set-72157602133562948
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your 
>>> style.  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with 
>>> much water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.  
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-24 Thread Jim 
Both of those are beautiful bikes, but the Vangal is, in my opinion, on an 
entirely different order of beautiful. Any idea what it sold for new in the 
'70's or what size it is?

Jim D.Massaachusetts

On Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:45:28 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Here are links to Bob's Vangal "Chambord" (not "Champion").
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8120162907/in/set-72157602257150196/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483723440/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1482953579/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483728740/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
>
> The Sumitomo (gawd, that's a beautiful bike -- Riv content? A new standard 
> or benchmark for Riv bikes, or simply excellentissimum workmanship).
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4040453738/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432593943/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1433458884/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1436932752/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3733531742/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8885631828/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432704299/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4039707011/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Ron Mc  >wrote:
>
>> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your style. 
>>  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with much 
>> water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Ron Mc 
thanks for the links !

On Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:45:28 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Here are links to Bob's Vangal "Chambord" (not "Champion").
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8120162907/in/set-72157602257150196/lightbox/
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483723440/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1482953579/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483728740/in/set-72157602257150196
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196
>
> The Sumitomo (gawd, that's a beautiful bike -- Riv content? A new standard 
> or benchmark for Riv bikes, or simply excellentissimum workmanship).
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4040453738/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432593943/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1433458884/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1436932752/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3733531742/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8885631828/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432704299/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4039707011/in/set-72157602133562948
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Ron Mc  >wrote:
>
>> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your style. 
>>  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with much 
>> water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.  
>>
>> -- 
>
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> [email protected] 
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore 
Here are links to Bob's Vangal "Chambord" (not "Champion").

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8120162907/in/set-72157602257150196/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483723440/in/set-72157602257150196

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1482953579/in/set-72157602257150196

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1483728740/in/set-72157602257150196

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3609521375/in/set-72157602257150196

The Sumitomo (gawd, that's a beautiful bike -- Riv content? A new standard
or benchmark for Riv bikes, or simply excellentissimum workmanship).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4040453738/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432593943/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1433458884/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1436932752/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/3733531742/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/8885631828/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/1432704299/in/set-72157602133562948

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/4039707011/in/set-72157602133562948



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> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your style.
>  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with much
> water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.
>
> --

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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Ron Mc 
Even from this hop monger, Fat Tire is kind of a no-brainer. A nice citrus 
note that makes it a good summertime brew.  Sour trappist ales really hit 
the spot when you're feeling dehydrated.  Obviously a lot of alcohol is a 
dumb idea, but a beer gives you carbs, makes you take a rest - just make 
sure you drink enough water to hydrate beyond the (small portion of) 
alcohol.  
If you can't think of a better place to ride, ride 15 miles to the brewpub, 
have a light lunch, drink a beer, head for the barn.  

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>
> I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition, 
> health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling 
> fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?
>
> Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish? 
> Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India 
> pale on tap. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Ron Mc 


On Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:24:54 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
>
> Haha, that is what my wife would say or that I am "the most boringist 
> person in the world" 
> On Jun 23, 2013 3:22 PM, "Patrick Moore" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Spoilsport!
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Peter Morgano 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Please on a different message board. I don't drink alcohol, I eat food, 
>>> I ride my bike. K. I. S. S. 
>>> On Jun 23, 2013 3:12 PM, "Patrick Moore" > 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition, 
 health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling 
 fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?

 Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish? 
 Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India 
 pale on tap. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Peter Morgano 
Haha, that is what my wife would say or that I am "the most boringist
person in the world"
On Jun 23, 2013 3:22 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:

> Spoilsport!
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:
>
>> Please on a different message board. I don't drink alcohol, I eat food, I
>> ride my bike. K. I. S. S.
>> On Jun 23, 2013 3:12 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>>
>>> I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition,
>>> health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling
>>> fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?
>>>
>>> Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish?
>>> Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India
>>> pale on tap.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Peter Morgano >> > wrote:
>>>
 Not another diet discussion, please.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Peter Morgano 
Please on a different message board. I don't drink alcohol, I eat food, I
ride my bike. K. I. S. S.
On Jun 23, 2013 3:12 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:

> I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition,
> health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling
> fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?
>
> Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish?
> Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India
> pale on tap.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Peter Morgano 
> wrote:
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore 
Spoilsport!

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:

> Please on a different message board. I don't drink alcohol, I eat food, I
> ride my bike. K. I. S. S.
> On Jun 23, 2013 3:12 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>
>> I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition,
>> health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling
>> fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?
>>
>> Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish?
>> Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India
>> pale on tap.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Peter Morgano 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not another diet discussion, please.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore 
Froidiyan slip: "Bridgestone"! I meant "Bridgeport".

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition,
> health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling
> fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?
>
> Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish?
> Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India
> pale on tap.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Peter Morgano 
> wrote:
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore 
I want a 500+ long thread on the merits of good ale to human nutrition,
health, longevity, morality, spirituality, sophistication, and cycling
fitness. Surely ale was part of the paleolithic lifestyle?

Riv content: what are the truest Rivendellian (Rivendellish?
Rivendellianesque? Rivendellianistic?) beers? I vote for Bridgestone India
pale on tap.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Peter Morgano 
Not another diet discussion, please.
On Jun 23, 2013 1:15 PM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:

> I noticed a remarkable drop in the amount of water I need with two things:
>
> -- I switched to always nose breathing
> -- I eliminated grains and most carbs from my diet.
>
> That includes 8 hour runs in the heat of the day in the Canyon Lands at
> 100+ temps (low humidity) drinking under 40 oz. and not being thirsty after.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:56:36 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> In just 20 1/2 miles (plus half an hour at the mid-point standing in the
>> sun and wind talking to someone about his neat '70s Vitus "Vangal" French
>> import and hearing about his early '80s Sumitomo titanium):
>>
>> 1 28 oz bottle.
>> 50 oz from a 100 oz Platypus bladder (fits nicely into the saddlebag).
>> At the terminus: 25.4 oz of Foster's ale.
>> About 95F, 5% humidity, NW wind 15 with stronger gusts. My cap was just
>> damp around the brow. My eyeballs feel like jerky. Rayon Hawaiian shirts
>> are great in this sort of weather!
>>
>> Riv commuter, 70" fixed gear.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Ron Mc 
I always brush-vacuum mine at home - get the fine stuff off the tires, and 
dust, and light rub water marks.  


 

I keep them waxed with Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Water!

2013-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore 
Apparently the Vangal was a re-branded French import brought in by a couple
of Americans, with last names Van... and ...gal, back in the '70s; his was
the top o' line model ("Champion"?) and I have to say that the lug thinning
and brazing detail looked as good to cursory eyes as that on my Curt-built
custom Riv. And he had polished up very nicely the Stronglight 99 and
various odd bits with which he had built it up. Very pretty. Riv-ish
content: he was riding no-retention.

(I am always impressed and a bit amused by how shiny many people keep their
bikes. It certainly makes them look good! Mine are well maintained, but not
often washed.)

The owner has a website and gave me his card, and I'll try to track down a
photo and post it -- he is Bob Hanson from the CR list, btw. We met halfway
on one of ABQ's many bike trails to swap an orphan 99 left arm for a ditto
Pro 5 Vis ditto.

The Vangal (Champion model?) is certainly Rivish, if not Rivendellian. (Or
is that vice-versa?).

The very early '80s "commercially pure", standard-tubing-widthed, titanium
Sumitomo is said to have very, very pretty tigg'ing -- even the crown to
steerer transition, he said, is so perfect that you can't see the joint.
I'll try to post that one, too.

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> triple the humidity and ride with us in S. Texas...but I like your style.
>  We often opt for liquid bread at our halfway stops - chased with much
> water, of course.  Wish you had your camera for the Vitus.
>
> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:56:36 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> In just 20 1/2 miles (plus half an hour at the mid-point standing in the
>> sun and wind talking to someone about his neat '70s Vitus "Vangal" French
>> import and hearing about his early '80s Sumitomo titanium):
>>
>> 1 28 oz bottle.
>> 50 oz from a 100 oz Platypus bladder (fits nicely into the saddlebag).
>> At the terminus: 25.4 oz of Foster's ale.
>> About 95F, 5% humidity, NW wind 15 with stronger gusts. My cap was just
>> damp around the brow. My eyeballs feel like jerky. Rayon Hawaiian shirts
>> are great in this sort of weather!
>>
>> Riv commuter, 70" fixed gear.
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