Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-15 Thread Patrick Moore 
Well, that certainly leaves me safe!

But this:

Our Paleolithic ancestors

did
lots of walking, with occasional sprints, but not extended running. They
would run long enough to escape the clutches of a tiger, but there were no
marathons happening across the African savanna.

And their source for this very personal information is what, exactly? The
Bible?

I've read in 18th century settlers' accounts how Indians would run a good
part of the day to run deer until it could run no more; in other words,
they outlasted it, just as wolves do. One such account was by a farm boy,
18th century, who was captured by and lived with a NE tribe for several
years. I also read how, much later, late 20th century, a Navajo priest, 70
years old, set off after a visit, at about 10 pm, to run to another
settlement some 20 or 30 miles away.

And of course the Zulu impis were notorious or celebrated, depending
whether you were Cetshwayo* or Gen. Chelmsford, for covering 40 miles in a
day.

And I've personally seen little, 5'6", 125 lb Sherpas carrying 100+ lb
loads (5 big kerosene tins on a heavy wooden frame) all day up mountain
tracks at 16K feet -- while whistling and smoking.

So, while I rather think these "experts" are on to something, some of their
"evidence" is, as someone cruelly put it, "Just So Stories."(Unless it
comes from Scripture.)

*Now there was a man who looked like a ruler! A cruel bastard, but an
imposing one -- far more so than the effete Chelmsford.



On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:

> Several years before I owned a Rivendell I discovered that long hard days
> in the saddle just wasn't for me, that was also before I discovered Brook
> saddles and handlebars above the saddle, so discomfort was part of the
> experience. Of course no use trying for more now that I realize that long
> hard days aren't even good for you:
> http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/08/23/
> extreme-endurance-exercise.aspx
> 
>
> So anyway longest ride on a Riv: Somewhere around 70 miles on Heron
> Touring, as part of a multi day ride.
> I do love an all day ramble with lots of photo ops, ice cream stops, BSing
> and checking places out. Maybe 35 miles in 6hrs is about right for a
> rambleneur.
>
> -Dave J
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he
>> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>>
>> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified,
>> even if it wasn't.
>>
>> 
>>
>> 1000K is the farthest I have successfully completed.  I'm 2 out of 3 at
>> that distance, the one failing due to a mechanical that could not be easily
>> solved in a geographically remote area of Texas.  (stripped crank bolt and
>> rounded crank arm interface).
>>
>> 1000K is easier to compartmentalize into seeming just a day longer than a
>> 600K. On a flat-ish one like I did most recently in 2014, I was in all
>> three days around midnight-12:30, so I got some sleep too and still
>> finished 9 and a half hours under the 75 hour time limit.  It still seemed
>> a bit long on the third day, I was telling the guys and gals I was riding
>> with that "It just seems like we ride our bikes all day every day" but
>> overall it was a manageable distance and we finished that ride in good
>> spirits.
>>
>> I admit to wanting to quit my first 1000K in 2007 at times but it was the
>> point to point Portland to Glacier ride, so if I wanted to quit, I was
>> going to have to hitch hike in remote areas of Washington, Idaho and
>> Montana.  Continuing to ride seemed like a better option at the time, so I
>> did.
>>
>> I have made a couple of attempts at 1200K, but failed in both, quit on or
>> end of the first day.  It's really in my head.  Mentally for some reason it
>> seems much more daunting than a 1000K, that extra 200K manifesting itself
>> as a 4th day on the bike gets to your psyche if you're having a tough
>> time.  I was miserable in the cold and rain in France in 2007 without
>> fenders.  I was 36 at that time and less mature, I really wanted to go
>> drink more wine and try to meet Parisian women, which of course didn't
>> happen.  The second part, I mean. The other time, I got psyched out by
>> looming spectre of the Salinas Valley headwind in California in 2014 after
>> I slept in on Day 2, just decided to sleep in and go visit family rather
>> than continue riding.
>>
>> I also do better when I'm riding with people that I frequently ride with
>> with out of the Texas clubs, because I know their riding paces and habits,
>> how long they'll take at controls, etc.  In neither 1200K I attempted

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Jim Bronson 
Were you able to fall asleep?

On Nov 14, 2016 18:48, "Metin Uz"  wrote:

> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:45:32 PM UTC-8, Matt B. wrote:
>>
>> If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been
>> on was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.
>>
>>>
>>>
> Depends on how you define "one sitting". Tours are clearly not a single
> ride. Some people treat a 1200K as a single ride, i.e. no sleep breaks. Of
> course most people get off the saddle even riding a century, at least to
> refill bottles.
>
> As for the original question, I have ridden the Gold Rush Randonnee 1200K
> on my Romulus, albeit with two overnight sleep breaks, not counting my
> attempt at a nap the first afternoon following the night start.
>
> --Metin
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Metin Uz 
On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 3:45:32 PM UTC-8, Matt B. wrote:
>
> If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been on 
> was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.
>
>>
>>
Depends on how you define "one sitting". Tours are clearly not a single 
ride. Some people treat a 1200K as a single ride, i.e. no sleep breaks. Of 
course most people get off the saddle even riding a century, at least to 
refill bottles.

As for the original question, I have ridden the Gold Rush Randonnee 1200K 
on my Romulus, albeit with two overnight sleep breaks, not counting my 
attempt at a nap the first afternoon following the night start.

--Metin
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Matt B. 
If we're talking about more than one sitting the longest ride I've been on 
was a little over 6,000 miles in a solo tour.

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 4:39:40 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My Quickbeam has been on a few longish rides:
>
> 2007 PBP (in the rain), set up as a fixed gear (74 inches, as I recall). 
> Finished in 82 1/2 hours
>
> 2006 Big Fix, 1,700 miles from Davis, CA, to Scott City, KS, over the 
> Sierras, Wasatch, and Rockies, riding fixed
>
> --Eric Norris
> [email protected] 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Ed Felker > 
> wrote:
>
> 1200K, Rambouillet, Boston-Montreal-Boston randonee 2004. Tough ride, 25mm 
> tires didn't do well on New England's pavement.
> 1200K, coupled Bleriot, Paris-Brest-Paris randonnee 2007. Terrific ride on 
> Grand Bois Cypress 32mm tires, even on chipseal. 
>
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC
>
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he 
>> was just asking about Boscos.  Woops
>>
>> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, 
>> even if it wasn't.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Eric Norris 
My Quickbeam has been on a few longish rides:

2007 PBP (in the rain), set up as a fixed gear (74 inches, as I recall). 
Finished in 82 1/2 hours

2006 Big Fix, 1,700 miles from Davis, CA, to Scott City, KS, over the Sierras, 
Wasatch, and Rockies, riding fixed

--Eric Norris
[email protected]
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Ed Felker  wrote:
> 
> 1200K, Rambouillet, Boston-Montreal-Boston randonee 2004. Tough ride, 25mm 
> tires didn't do well on New England's pavement.
> 1200K, coupled Bleriot, Paris-Brest-Paris randonnee 2007. Terrific ride on 
> Grand Bois Cypress 32mm tires, even on chipseal. 
> 
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC
> 
> 
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
> So I typed up this long post to Lum gim fong, and then realized that he was 
> just asking about Boscos.  Woops
> 
> I'm going to post it anyway, so I can feel like my effort was justified, even 
> if it wasn't.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Clayton.sf 
Have done 2 300k on my quickbeam. Those were the longest in one sitting.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Ryan Fleming 
OK...100km once on my allrounder and a couple of  85 km outings;  similar 
longish miles on my road. 85 km is my max comfortable distance right 
now...but when I retire, maybe that will increase

I'm impressed by all you mega-milers...intellectually the brevets appeal 
but not sure I could handle any above populaire distance 

in the mid to late eighties I was good for 7ish hour centuries including 
breaks and could tour with camping gear for a week at the time in 
relatively flat but windy Manitoba

On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 2:34:09 PM UTC-6, ttoshi wrote:
>
> 600k on my Homer 38mm Parimoto tires (no flats, despite everyone going 
> down around me!)
>
> 2x600k on my 650b Ram (42 mm Hetres 1 piece of glass-2 flats--missed a 
> pesky glass shard after first flat, but found it the second go)
>
> Hopefully PBP 2019 on a custom 650b Riv!  Going with connectorless SON hub 
> and internal wiring for a rear dyno light.  My 54 cm Rambouillet frame is 
> on sale--anyone looking?
>
> Toshi
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-14 Thread Toshi Takeuchi 
600k on my Homer 38mm Parimoto tires (no flats, despite everyone going down
around me!)

2x600k on my 650b Ram (42 mm Hetres 1 piece of glass-2 flats--missed a
pesky glass shard after first flat, but found it the second go)

Hopefully PBP 2019 on a custom 650b Riv!  Going with connectorless SON hub
and internal wiring for a rear dyno light.  My 54 cm Rambouillet frame is
on sale--anyone looking?

Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-11 Thread Patrick Moore 
50 or so miles for me, a short-haul, wimpy sort of rider. But it was hilly
and windy! And all in the (at the time) 75" gear!

Recently: 30, also hilly, also fixed, but used the 67" uphill and the 76"
downhill. Long ago: 3-4 hour rides up toward the Rift Valley, fast in the
big (48t) ring on my racy Raleigh Sprite (drops, Brooks, half stepped with
Delrin, but I used only the 48) going all out all the time until I bonked
so bad under the equatorial sun that I saw white spots on the road -- never
too water or food.

Tim -- too bad about the tire problem. Kudos to y'all who ride so many
miles, on Rivs or otherwise.

Aside: When I ordered the gofast, I meekly explained to Grant, "For me, 30
miles is a long ride." He replied, "But it *is* a long ride!" I felt better.

Patrick Moore, soon out to do another short 20 miler or so on the errand
Riv or, if you like, adding a 19 mile detour to a sub 1 mile grocery run,
in ABQ, NM.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-11 Thread Jim Bronson 
Right on Garth.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
>
> About 2-1/2 hours, 30 some miles I guess.  Not that this is any better
> or worse than riding 5 miles or 500 though, day or might, rain or shine ,
> any moment of riding is all the same to me regardless of the condition.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-11 Thread Jim Bronson 
Oh man that's a bummer Tim.  You were almost there.

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 4:05 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> PBP, 2015, on my Hilsen. I was a DNF at Villaines on the return (I learned
> that a tire boot will not save an extra light Compass tire with a sidewall
> cut) so just over 1000k. In the first 24 hours I rode about 277 miles,
> which was my personal record.
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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-11 Thread Steve Palincsar 
Might well be of equal value, but it's pretty unlikely the riding after 
200 continuous miles would be "the same" as riding 30 miles especially 
because of the condition.



On 11/11/2016 07:56 AM, Garth wrote:



About 2-1/2 hours, 30 some miles I guess.  Not that this is any 
better or worse than riding 5 miles or 500 though, day or might, rain 
or shine , any moment of riding is all the same to me regardless of 
the condition.




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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-10 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv 
The Green Mountain loop in Vt in 2011. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-10 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv 
The Green Mountain loop in Vt in 2011. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-10 Thread lum gim fong 
 Last year it rained off and on for the whole ride.  Thankfully, it was a light 
rain. Nothing bad. Temps in the 50s. It was a fun day.I had a great time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-10 Thread Steve Palincsar 
The Flatbread 200K, the one I rode last Saturday.  Weather was terrible 
in 2015, was it not?


I missed it in 2014 and 2015, but some folks last week during the ride 
were commenting on how different the weather was this time - sunny, 
clear skies, up to low 60s during the warmest part of the day, and 
except for around 40 miles, relatively mild winds (for the Eastern Shore).



On 11/10/2016 05:44 PM, lum gim fong wrote:
DCRandonneurs Eastern Shore 205k November, 2015. I wrote it up here 
somewhere.




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Re: [RBW] Re: What's the longest you have ridden on your Rivendell period?

2016-11-10 Thread Steve Palincsar 

Which one?


On 11/10/2016 04:30 PM, lum gim fong wrote:
200k on  my Bleriot. Comfortable the whole way. Noodle drops, Flyer 
saddle, Loup Loup tires, MKS Touring pedals.




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