Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
My experience is similar to Lee's. Same bar position. I ride most on the "top " of the curves. I prefer these bars on rides of 50 moles or less but they are my favorite for climbing. Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: Lee Chae Sent: Fri Sep 07 09:47:06 CST 2012 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude? Good morning, all. I guess this is a good example of everybody needing to make their own peace with moustache bars. I like them low and a bit far away. With this positioning, I do most of my riding with my hands at 10 and 2 on the curves leading from the hooks to the bar ends. When my hands need a little relief, I rotate my wrists or move my hands to a new place. When my hands or back need more relief, I can lean into the hooks or go upright at the bar ends. I also use the hooks position for headwinds or faster moments. And, I like grabbing on the straight bar segments when climbing. With this configuration, I find that I have to tilt the bars down or else the bar ends force my wrists into a broken position, like after you swing a hammer or cast a fly. I've also positioned my saddle and bars so that I'm pretty balanced and can lift my hands off the bar and still stay in my riding position. So, not a lot of pressure on the bars to begin with. With all of that said, on a couple of longer rides, at the 60-70 mile mark, I have felt some discomfort in my hands that I have yet to experience with drop bars. Anyways, here's some pics of my setup: http://tinyurl.com/3upa5ox http://tinyurl.com/9owepc5 http://tinyurl.com/3sjfeoq Happy Friday! Lee SF, CA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Kelly wrote: I have the mustache bars on my Quickbeam. My biggest mistake with them was to have them to far away. A nice stretched out ride in the hooks but due to the short backward reach I was always putting to much pressure on me hands for all day tours when sitting up. I love the feel up on in the hooks but the end of bar feel has been difficult to find a happy place for me. I have raised the bar now and installed a dirt drop stem to shorten the reach. Feels better sitting up but doesn't feel "as" good when climbing or in the hooks. Overall I like them and will keep them on this bike for a while longer. Kelly On Friday, September 7, 2012 2:14:04 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: I used to really like my moustache bars, but now I don't, so I kind of wonder about angles, too. I did have albatross bars on that bike for a while, and a different seat. Either I didn't set the m-bars up the same as they had been before, or else I changed... Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:32:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Seeing Manny's panda photo has prompted me to wonder: What is the attitude (tilt) of your mustache bars? I'm on my second mustache-equipped bike, and having the same problem finding a comfortable tilt that I had on the first (which I long ago switched over to standard drop bars). So I ask of those of you who have M-bars and like them: how do you have them set up? Parallel to the ground? Tilted? Any help the group can offer to find a way to set up the bars so they're comfortable for more than an hour's ride would be much appreciated. --Eric "Love the Look, Hate the Feel" Norris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-xYxd_Q_8WgJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
Swept back portion angled down; top part as viewed from the side of the bike is horizontal. I agree that they are an acquired taste. M-bars on All-rounder, X0-1 and Peugeot PX-10 SS. AR and Peugeot use Nitto Pearl and Tech deluxe stems. Bars and saddle are level X0-1 uses stock Ritchey Force stem and bars are an inch or so below the saddle I find changing hand positions frequently helps, otherwise palms tend to go numb...especially on 30K+ rides On Friday, September 7, 2012 5:05:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > 57 here, and certainly not as spry as I was 10 years ago. I've tried > M-bars many times on many different bikes, with positions ranging from high > and close to one similar to a lowish hoods position (on the M-bar's hoods), > and I've tried them angled down and flat. I have really wanted to like them > -- have even toyed briefly recently with the idea of trying them again on > the Fargo -- but I can never be comfortable on them for more than a few > miles: they hurt my left palm. But the most comfortable position (tho' this > was 15 years ago) was at the same (below-saddle) height as my drops with a > similar (~8 cm) stem, with the ends parallel to the earth and riding them > mostly on the hoods with levers placed a la Grant's instructions back in > the B-stone days: ie, close. I commuted on this setup for a year or so, ~10 > miles each way.The problem with *that* was that there was no "sit up and > relax" postion like the flats on a drop bar, tho' holding on by my finger > tips to the ends of the bars while climbing did help a bit. > > Overall, I just can't make them work. > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Mattt >wrote: > >> >> >> I keep my moustache bars parallel to the ground. I like my bars a little >> lower than the "standard." If I tilt them back, I have to reach down too >> low. It works for me. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e7ctx935N-wJ. >> >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >-- Claude Cockburn > > - > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UM5rf7zS85AJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
57 here, and certainly not as spry as I was 10 years ago. I've tried M-bars many times on many different bikes, with positions ranging from high and close to one similar to a lowish hoods position (on the M-bar's hoods), and I've tried them angled down and flat. I have really wanted to like them -- have even toyed briefly recently with the idea of trying them again on the Fargo -- but I can never be comfortable on them for more than a few miles: they hurt my left palm. But the most comfortable position (tho' this was 15 years ago) was at the same (below-saddle) height as my drops with a similar (~8 cm) stem, with the ends parallel to the earth and riding them mostly on the hoods with levers placed a la Grant's instructions back in the B-stone days: ie, close. I commuted on this setup for a year or so, ~10 miles each way.The problem with *that* was that there was no "sit up and relax" postion like the flats on a drop bar, tho' holding on by my finger tips to the ends of the bars while climbing did help a bit. Overall, I just can't make them work. On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Mattt wrote: > > > I keep my moustache bars parallel to the ground. I like my bars a little > lower than the "standard." If I tilt them back, I have to reach down too > low. It works for me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e7ctx935N-wJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cockburn - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
I had them most recently at about 6-8 degrees (http://flic.kr/p/c3moYY), but swapped them out for Porteur bars (similar angle - http://flic.kr/p/cZgd4w). I usually have the bars about the same angle of tilt as the saddle. I like that the Porteurs have a similar feel, albeit narrower, and they come back a bit giving me an upright rest position. I am gradually becoming a drop convert, however, and see the day coming where I just have noodles on my riders. Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Sep 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Philip Williamson wrote: > I used to really like my moustache bars, but now I don't, so I kind of wonder > about angles, too. I did have albatross bars on that bike for a while, and a > different seat. Either I didn't set the m-bars up the same as they had been > before, or else I changed... > > Philip > www.biketinker.com > > On Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:32:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: > Seeing Manny's panda photo has prompted me to wonder: What is the attitude > (tilt) of your mustache bars? > > I'm on my second mustache-equipped bike, and having the same problem finding > a comfortable tilt that I had on the first (which I long ago switched over to > standard drop bars). So I ask of those of you who have M-bars and like them: > how do you have them set up? Parallel to the ground? Tilted? > > Any help the group can offer to find a way to set up the bars so they're > comfortable for more than an hour's ride would be much appreciated. > > --Eric "Love the Look, Hate the Feel" Norris > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mjj9UhiW7woJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
Good morning, all. I guess this is a good example of everybody needing to make their own peace with moustache bars. I like them low and a bit far away. With this positioning, I do most of my riding with my hands at 10 and 2 on the curves leading from the hooks to the bar ends. When my hands need a little relief, I rotate my wrists or move my hands to a new place. When my hands or back need more relief, I can lean into the hooks or go upright at the bar ends. I also use the hooks position for headwinds or faster moments. And, I like grabbing on the straight bar segments when climbing. With this configuration, I find that I have to tilt the bars down or else the bar ends force my wrists into a broken position, like after you swing a hammer or cast a fly. I've also positioned my saddle and bars so that I'm pretty balanced and can lift my hands off the bar and still stay in my riding position. So, not a lot of pressure on the bars to begin with. With all of that said, on a couple of longer rides, at the 60-70 mile mark, I have felt some discomfort in my hands that I have yet to experience with drop bars. Anyways, here's some pics of my setup: *http://tinyurl.com/3upa5ox **http://tinyurl.com/9owepc5 **http://tinyurl.com/3sjfeoq* Happy Friday! Lee SF, CA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Kelly wrote: > I have the mustache bars on my Quickbeam. My biggest mistake with them > was to have them to far away. A nice stretched out ride in the hooks but > due to the short backward reach I was always putting to much pressure on me > hands for all day tours when sitting up. > I love the feel up on in the hooks but the end of bar feel has been > difficult to find a happy place for me. I have raised the bar now and > installed a dirt drop stem to shorten the reach. Feels better sitting up > but doesn't feel "as" good when climbing or in the hooks. Overall I like > them and will keep them on this bike for a while longer. > > Kelly > > > On Friday, September 7, 2012 2:14:04 AM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote: >> >> I used to really like my moustache bars, but now I don't, so I kind of >> wonder about angles, too. I did have albatross bars on that bike for a >> while, and a different seat. Either I didn't set the m-bars up the same as >> they had been before, or else *I* changed... >> >> Philip >> www.biketinker.com >> >> On Thursday, September 6, 2012 10:32:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: >>> >>> Seeing Manny's panda photo has prompted me to wonder: What is the >>> attitude (tilt) of your mustache bars? >>> >>> I'm on my second mustache-equipped bike, and having the same problem >>> finding a comfortable tilt that I had on the first (which I long ago >>> switched over to standard drop bars). So I ask of those of you who have >>> M-bars and like them: how do you have them set up? Parallel to the ground? >>> Tilted? >>> >>> Any help the group can offer to find a way to set up the bars so they're >>> comfortable for more than an hour's ride would be much appreciated. >>> >>> --Eric "Love the Look, Hate the Feel" Norris >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-xYxd_Q_8WgJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is Your Moustache Attitude?
Like many I wanted to like them more than I actually did. I finally reinstalled them on my Allrounder and got the height right. I don't think I'd want to do a long tour with them but they are great for what I use the AR for. The pic doesn't really show the height but you get the idea. http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2011/09/bicycle-cockpit.html -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
