Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
I got one of each, and my vest arrived last week. It is itchy but I find it fine over a T shirt, and with a silk square round my neck, as the neckline is a bit higher than the sweater version. As someone who grew up in Wales, the smell is very nostalgic - smells like a sheep farm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f54a5b62-47ae-47b2-b46e-da931e56f60ao%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
Yes. It is glorious. For those that haven't gotten theirs and the inevitable second run comes -- on sizing: I am 6'2, 215, 34 inch waist (44 long sport coat) and the Large fits very well. It is stretchy, but if I was going to wear it over a few layers, I might have sized up. However, it fits so so well. It is SUPER itchy, but it's fantastic and I'm going to wear it A LOT come fall. - rg in dc On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:28 PM Adam wrote: > Has anyone received their vest yet? I’m looking forward to it! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e1f7b32b-9d7f-4db9-8242-973fcd2c5bc3o%40googlegroups.com > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAO1DKXtyrREBJ-SazPi9WMR3xZYAnxR0%3DyntMDh%3DSwt7mexdoQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:12 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: >> I've gotta think there's more than a little blind faith in action >> here. > > Somewhat difficult to follow your point. > > These sweaters are are not some new Rov bike design. Rather, they are > traditional English sweater designs made with traditional wool > varietals. It is not uncommon to see people in the UK and Ireland > wearing very similar garments. > >> I think they are at their weakest in their efforts to expand Rivendell into >> a "lifestyle" brand. > > Don't follow this either. GP frequently makes the point that bicycle > specific clothing go astray the point of enjoying a bicycle. He is > also an advocate of small crafts businesses where possible. Quality > comfortable made by a family owned company seem very consistent with > the philosophy and not a craven effort to expand a brand. > Hear Hear. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
I just ordred one of those windbreaker fronts from RIV for those windy days when a full wind proof jacket is too much. Actually I am thinking a jacket made out of the same stuff the MuSA pants are made out of with removable sleeves might be nice. :) Kelly PATRICK MOORE wrote: > My only like is that the crew-neck, button placket, rear-pocketed pullover > is just so great as a second layer over a thinner, and less itchey, merino > base layer. > > IME, layers of relatively thin wool are excellent for riding, wind > notwithstanding, since they (1) keep you warm in a surprisingly wide range > of temps and (2) breath so that you don't sweat as with an impermeable > windbreaker. If the wind is harsh, just add another thin, knit layer. My own > personal experience. > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, NME wrote: > > > I'm curious -- to those who have owned the previous incarnations of > > these tweedy sweaters, is there something special about them beyond > > the fact that they're made from rustic British wool (of which I am a > > great fan)? As in, are they knit at a very tight gauge to be slightly > > more windproof for cycling? I am a pretty experienced hand knitter > > and machine knitter, but I'm not a terribly big fan of knit garments > > for providing warmth for cycling: the wind always cuts through and > > chills my bones, so I prefer to wear wool under a woven jacket. Maybe > > that's just because most of my riding is <5 miles commuting, so I'm > > not building up a proper sweat. > > > > What have your experiences been? > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
My only like is that the crew-neck, button placket, rear-pocketed pullover is just so great as a second layer over a thinner, and less itchey, merino base layer. IME, layers of relatively thin wool are excellent for riding, wind notwithstanding, since they (1) keep you warm in a surprisingly wide range of temps and (2) breath so that you don't sweat as with an impermeable windbreaker. If the wind is harsh, just add another thin, knit layer. My own personal experience. On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:49 PM, NME wrote: > I'm curious -- to those who have owned the previous incarnations of > these tweedy sweaters, is there something special about them beyond > the fact that they're made from rustic British wool (of which I am a > great fan)? As in, are they knit at a very tight gauge to be slightly > more windproof for cycling? I am a pretty experienced hand knitter > and machine knitter, but I'm not a terribly big fan of knit garments > for providing warmth for cycling: the wind always cuts through and > chills my bones, so I prefer to wear wool under a woven jacket. Maybe > that's just because most of my riding is <5 miles commuting, so I'm > not building up a proper sweat. > > What have your experiences been? > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
-1 on the cardigan, but love everything else. The sleeveless could be tapered back a bit, though. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:57 PM, dean899 wrote: > Good to see them make a return. I've been trying to get the vest and > long sleeve sweater off the list here and now have one of each(yeah). > My only gripe is the fact the the old last version was knit off > center! The pockets were not centered and the cardigan was a mess > with the buttons centered on my chest at the top but the bottom of the > sweater had the buttons at my right hip. Hope there is quality > control on this batch! > > On Feb 5, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> > Made in England, same guys making them, >> >> That is good to know. From the RR piece on them a few years back they >> came across as the kind of wonderfully eccentric crafts people that >> you can still meet every now and then in rural UK. I was afraid they >> had retired or gone out of business or something. >> >> On Feb 5, 10:26 am, grant wrote: >> >> >> >> > There are some bluish strands of wool, so I'd say at least some of the >> > wool is from Swaledales that are kin to the one show below. Made in >> > England, same guys making them, and I'll get the skinny on the rest of >> > the wool. It is "far from merino." Some kind of wirey, wolf-proof >> > sheep, I'm sure. >> >> > G >> >> > On Feb 5, 5:06 am, JoelMatthews wrote: >> >> > > Not sure, but you see these Swaledale sheep everywhere in the UK: >> >> > >http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikip... >> >> > > The earlier version of the sweater was made by a small outfit in >> > > England. >> >> > > On Feb 4, 11:32 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: >> >> > > >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/324 >> >> > > > For the rivhq gang - does anyone know the type of sheep the wool comes >> > > > from? Inquiring minds (like my knitting significant other) want to >> > > > know. >> >> > > > I'm curious where they're being made. >> >> > > > Love the ben franklin sweater. Will probably buy 2 of them just for me. >> >> > > > -sv- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Feb 5, 2011, at 2:58 PM, William wrote: > We're a loony bin. LOL! That made me laugh! And kudos to Grant & Co. for looking for the gaps in the cyclers' market to try to supply stuff we might like and can't find at most LBS's and/or Nashbar. Rivendell has added appreciably to the diversity of bike products out there, and has given us a choice between high-tech wunderbikes and old bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:32 PM, William Pustow wrote: > Jim, > > > You're not the only one. Before I purchased my first Rivendell i was warned > about the Grant Petersen cult and this just proves that it is real: > Grant; "We have this really scratchy sweater to sell you." > Cult members: "Oh thank you, Grant! We wouldn't want to wear something > comfortable." > > Don't get me wrong, I have 3 Riv's and love them. Now the Rivendell > sweatshirt - Oh thank you Grant! > > Something worth mentioning. A lot of scratchy wool is also REALLY wear-resistant. After wearing through the elbows in 2 soft-wool cardigans in 2 yrs I'd rather go with scratchy. I'm wearing a longsleeve shirt when I'm wearing a cardigan anyway. add to that the good look of a tweedy wool and you've got a winner, imo. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
Jim, You're not the only one. Before I purchased my first Rivendell i was warned about the Grant Petersen cult and this just proves that it is real: Grant; "We have this really scratchy sweater to sell you." Cult members: "Oh thank you, Grant! We wouldn't want to wear something comfortable." Don't get me wrong, I have 3 Riv's and love them. Now the Rivendell sweatshirt - Oh thank you Grant! Bill Louisville, Ky Bill Louisville, Ky On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jim Cloud wrote: > I guess my view will be considered contrarian, but I've had more than > enough scratchy wool sweaters in my lifetime. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:26 AM, grant wrote: > There are some bluish strands of wool, so I'd say at least some of the > wool is from Swaledales that are kin to the one show below. Made in > England, same guys making them, and I'll get the skinny on the rest of > the wool. It is "far from merino." Some kind of wirey, wolf-proof > sheep, I'm sure. > Grant, thanks for looking into it. There's a knitter in this house who will be happy to know more about the variety of sheep. Oh and the knitter also told me to tell you thank you for not having them made from merino wool. By doing so you're encouraging more of polyculture in sheep which is beneficial to the genetic health of sheep. Also since the sheep seem to come from the yorkshires we're referring to it as James Herriot Wool. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > > On the one hand, useful. On the other hand, really ugly. Really really > ugly-- that narrow patch pocket is awful. > > So it's a balance: do you want a sweater that's useful on the bike, > but looks ridiculous when you're not riding? > > The armholes on the earlier version of the vest are way better. For > the newer version, it looks like the sweater designer had never > designed a vest-- vests need a different armhole, deeper and curved. > You can see in the pictures that the armhole is too high, so it > wrinkles. I'd cut the shoulders in too; I think it looks better. I agree about the vest shoulders/armholes. the pocket in the rear doesn't matter much to me one way or the other. The patch pockets on the front of the cardigan look fine w/me. If they want to rotate the pocket opening 90degrees so you can put your hands it from behind, that'd be just fine, too. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Jim Cloud wrote: > I agree that pockets at the back of the vest would increase its > utility. Here's some photos from Lesli Larson's Flickr Archival > Clothing photostream that show the earlier version of the Rivendell > vest: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/3251797465/in/photostream/ On the one hand, useful. On the other hand, really ugly. Really really ugly-- that narrow patch pocket is awful. So it's a balance: do you want a sweater that's useful on the bike, but looks ridiculous when you're not riding? The armholes on the earlier version of the vest are way better. For the newer version, it looks like the sweater designer had never designed a vest-- vests need a different armhole, deeper and curved. You can see in the pictures that the armhole is too high, so it wrinkles. I'd cut the shoulders in too; I think it looks better. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > Not sure, but you see these Swaledale sheep everywhere in the UK: Swaledales are white. The sweaters are dark gray. Maybe a Balwen sheep, or a Hebridean sheep? Those are both black long wool sheep from Scotland. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: new sweaters/vests
Howdy folks. I was always sorry I didn't get one of the original vests, so this is good news :^) However, that vest looks like a sweater with the arms cut off and the holes hemmed. It doesn't appear to fit at all in the shoulders. Also, I would have liked to see the pockets. They are handly for a wallet or keys, even if the bike has a bag of some sort. It isn't like having a/pocket(s) makes it hideous off the bike. Being a cyclist, I don't mind if my stuff looks a bit "bikey". Regards, Doug On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Jim Cloud wrote: > I guess my view will be considered contrarian, but I've had more than > enough scratchy wool sweaters in my lifetime. In the last couple of > years I've purchased several merino wool garments. Some of them > cycling specific, but quite wearable off the bike, especially a Sugoi > Wallaroo 290 long sleeve jersey. It's a comfy (non-scratchy!) jersey > that I've been wearing a great deal during the unseasonably cold > winter we're experiencing in Southeast Arizona. Here's a link to the > Sugoi site that shows the jersey: > > http://www.sugoi.com/usa/eng/Products/Bike/Men/Details/1447-68301U-Wallaroo-290-L-S-Jersey > > I think the vest that Rivendell is planning to source, however, is a > garment that would be quite useful over a jersey for additional > warmth. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
