Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.
Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)… New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain. The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the gears and no skipping. Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again (not good for vertigo). I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference. Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ??? Any ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.
Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)… New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain. The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the gears and no skipping. Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again (not good for vertigo). I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference. Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ??? Any ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.
Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. I backed off the tension just a bit and all was well. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)… New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain. The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the gears and no skipping. Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again (not good for vertigo). I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference. Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ??? Any ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.
In my case tension may need to be added, as I've never adjusted them at all since the bike was new 18 months ago. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:41:27 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. I backed off the tension just a bit and all was well. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)… New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain. The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the gears and no skipping. Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again (not good for vertigo). I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference. Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ??? Any ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.
When your shop swapped out the chain and a chainring, I was surprised that they didn't sell you a new cassette at the same time. It is entirely likely your cassette is worn out and needs to go. The smaller cogs share the load over fewer teeth, so it's not at all unusual to have skipping in the middle before having it in the bigger cogs (lower gears). If you find you can't fix it with adjustment, that will most likely be the reason. On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:03:36 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: In my case tension may need to be added, as I've never adjusted them at all since the bike was new 18 months ago. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:41:27 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. I backed off the tension just a bit and all was well. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote: Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)… New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain. The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the gears and no skipping. Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again (not good for vertigo). I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference. Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ??? Any ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.