Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-11 Thread Robert Barr
Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem
that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster.
I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine
adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I
 believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just
 chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over
 time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder
 if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m
 experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)…

 New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain.

 The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and lower
 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit the
 gears and no skipping.

 Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears of
 the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain
 replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can
 back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again
 (not good for vertigo).

 I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2)
 tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference.

 Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this
 doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the
 lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ???

 Any ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem 
 that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. 
 I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine 
 adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I 
 believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just 
 chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over 
 time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder 
 if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m 
 experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)…

 New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain.

 The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and 
 lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit 
 the gears and no skipping.

 Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears 
 of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain 
 replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can 
 back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again 
 (not good for vertigo).

 I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) 
 tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference.

 Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this 
 doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the 
 lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ???

 Any ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-11 Thread Robert Barr
Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. I
backed off the tension just a bit and all was well.


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem
 that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster.
 I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine
 adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I
 believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just
 chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over
 time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I wonder
 if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m
 experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)…

 New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain.

 The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and
 lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit
 the gears and no skipping.

 Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears
 of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain
 replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I can
 back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again
 (not good for vertigo).

 I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2)
 tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference.

 Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this
 doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the
 lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ???

 Any ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
In my case tension may need to be added, as I've never adjusted them at all 
since the bike was new 18 months ago.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:41:27 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. I 
 backed off the tension just a bit and all was well.


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension problem 
 that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel adjuster. 
 I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did a fine 
 adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I 
 believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just 
 chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over 
 time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I 
 wonder 
 if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m 
 experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)…

 New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain.

 The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and 
 lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit 
 the gears and no skipping.

 Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two gears 
 of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since chain 
 replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I 
 can 
 back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches again 
 (not good for vertigo).

 I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) 
 tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference.

 Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this 
 doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the 
 lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ???

 Any ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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Re: [RBW] Skipping only in high gears.

2013-11-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
When your shop swapped out the chain and a chainring, I was surprised that 
they didn't sell you a new cassette at the same time.  It is entirely 
likely your cassette is worn out and needs to go.  The smaller cogs share 
the load over fewer teeth, so it's not at all unusual to have skipping in 
the middle before having it in the bigger cogs (lower gears).   If you find 
you can't fix it with adjustment, that will most likely be the reason.  

On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:03:36 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 In my case tension may need to be added, as I've never adjusted them at 
 all since the bike was new 18 months ago.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:41:27 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - in my case I had been over zealous in snugging up a new cable. 
 I backed off the tension just a bit and all was well.


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bob. I have not tried that, so I will.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Monday, November 11, 2013 6:42:28 AM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 Patrick - I had a similar problem once, mine was a cable tension 
 problem that was resolved with a slight turn of the rear derailer barrel 
 adjuster. I am not sure if that is what you meant when wrote that you did 
 a 
 fine adjustment with the gear shifter. Bob


 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote:

 I’m not positive (due to bludgeoned brain, not great memory), but I 
 believe I experienced this issue when the Hunqapillar was new and I just 
 chalked it up to figuring out the friction shifting. Sure enough, over 
 time, the issue faded away, so matched my slow learning curve. Now I 
 wonder 
 if it went away because of chain stretch. Anyway, here’s what I’m 
 experiencing now (with a reminder of recent history)…

 New chain and granny chain ring after a very stretched out chain.

 The lower half of the granny gears (I don’t ride the upper half) and 
 lower 1/3-1/2 of the middle chain ring are smooth as butter. Easy to hit 
 the gears and no skipping.

 Upper 1/2-2/3rds of the middle chain ring (and likely the top two 
 gears of the big chain ring, but I rarely ride that and haven’t since 
 chain 
 replacement) skips when pedaling. It’s not on the edge between gears (I 
 can 
 back pedal smoothly). My foot just suddenly spins fast, than catches 
 again 
 (not good for vertigo).

 I have tried: 1) fine adjustment with gear shifter, no difference; 2) 
 tightening the shifter hand nut, no difference.

 Ideas: 1) bent derailleur?; 2) rear cassette needs replacement (this 
 doesn’t make sense to me since it is only the higher gears and it’s the 
 lower gears that get the most use and torque); 3) ???

 Any ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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