Re: [RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible

2012-05-18 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Simon Sperm said: >Call numbers are a very good example of how linking between records is used >in MARC today. There's the call number that can go in field 050 of a > bibliographic record, but that isn't enough to deal with multiple copies >of the described manifestation. The MARC21 852 is a ver

Re: [RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible with Relational database principles or systems?

2012-05-18 Thread Simon Spero
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:35 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Simon Spero said: > > >[3] It is indeed possible to generate a full record by joining > together things from different tables. > > Some data may be unique to the manifestation represented by the record, > e.g. call number (as opposed to jus

Re: [RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible with Relational database principles or systems? (Was: Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF)

2012-05-18 Thread Simon Spero
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Joe M Tomich wrote: > Simon, > > In your model, does the stored information for an individual author or > publisher constitute a record within a table (as would likely be the case > in a typical relational database), or is each author, publisher, etc. > effectivel

Re: [RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible with Relational database principles or systems? (Was: Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF)

2012-05-18 Thread Joe M Tomich
Simon, In your model, does the stored information for an individual author or publisher constitute a record within a table (as would likely be the case in a typical relational database), or is each author, publisher, etc. effectively its own table? Joe Tomich UW-Milwaukee Libraries - Orig

Re: [RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible with Relational database principles or systems?

2012-05-18 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Simon Spero said: >[3] It is indeed possible to generate a full record by joining together >things from different tables. Some data may be unique to the manifestation represented by the record, e.g. call number (as opposed to just class number), title, statement of responsibility, collation. W

[RDA-L] Are RDA, MARC data, and Bibliographic concepts compatible with Relational database principles or systems? (Was: Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF)

2012-05-18 Thread Simon Spero
[I am top posting to preserve context,; I'm re-adding BIBFRAME to the address list because much of this is relevant to Bibliographic Framework issues. Since issues of RDA content are directly involved and the question was posed on RDA-L, this message is sent to both lists] I am taking the central

[RDA-L] Two copies of record in hitlist

2012-05-18 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Sorry, I know nothing about the inner workings of TLC's cataloguing module ITS, so I can't explain how it happens. In ITS (and I assume Bibliofile) When a videorecording record's 130 and 245 are the same except for the "(Motion picture)" and "[videorecording]" at the end, the record shows up twice

Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-18 Thread Kathleen Lamantia
Joe, Thanks for this very pertinent comment. This is exactly what I have been wondering myself. Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS Technical Services Librarian Stark County District Library 715 Market Avenue North Canton, OH 44702 330-458-2723 klaman...@starklibrary.org Inspiring Ideas ∙ Enriching Live

Re: [RDA-L] RDA, DBMS and RDF

2012-05-18 Thread Joe Tomich
I'm coming into this discussion somewhat late so apologies if the following has been covered. As someone who works both with MARC directly as a cataloger and MS Access (both in the same ILS--Voyager) I was very interested in this discussion and wanted to weigh in. My question: Is it RDA that i