Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Mac said: I failed the mention record exchange. To exchange records, the records need to be complete in themselves. Just as UTLAS substituted text for RSN in access points when exporting records, our ILS would have to be capable of creating the complete textual record, not only for display

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread James Weinheimer
On 05/06/2012 11:29, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip We do lots of record exchange in Germany between various systems. In the exchange format, it's common to have both the heading in textual form and the national authority control number, but I'm fairly sure it would be no problem if only the

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Thomas, thank you for this very instructive mail. It is correct that one Creator element and one Title proper element can duplicate the Work Manifested element if the form used is the authorized access point for the work (name + title form), as opposed to an identifier (such as a URI).

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread James Weinheimer
On 05/06/2012 13:54, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip Come to think of it, this seems to be a general flaw in RDA: For instance, if there is more than one statement of responsibility, we're told to record the statements in the order indicated by the sequence, layout, or typography of the

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller Sent: June 5, 2012 7:55 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples ... In RDA though, just pointing to

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Karen Coyle
On 6/5/12 4:54 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: T But I think this raises a very important point: RDA only has one (repeatable) element creator. Indeed, one wonders why it's not possible to express the notion of the most important creator somehow. Wouldn't the obvious solution be a

Re: [RDA-L] Library Systems was: Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Karen Coyle
On 6/4/12 12:43 PM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: Maybe. But think of all the money and resources which has already been gone into RDA. Makes you wonder why it shouldn't be possible to invest some of it into an open source solution which would be available to all... But then, of course, this

[RDA-L] Mini Tutorial: Keeping order in RDF and ISO Common Logic/IKL (was Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples)

2012-06-05 Thread Simon Spero
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Keeping an exact order is less intuitive in RDF. I'm not sure how that would be done. This would be good time to try and go over some of the ways that one can represent this kind of ordered values using some different

Re: [RDA-L] Work manifested in new RDA examples

2012-06-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Thomas said: The Find user task needs to be satisfied. In card catalog conventions, the main entry heading collocates related works. Using some sort of (standardized) method for the value of the Work manifested means that other works can specify something that will link back to the work in