Re: [RDA-L] Order of 040 subfields

2012-08-01 Thread Moore, Richard
For *authority* records, LC are accepting any order for the moment. We've been putting $e at the end, but any $d after that. There seems to be a school of thought that $d should precede $c. _ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library

Re: [RDA-L] Order of 040 subfields

2012-08-01 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Michael Cohen asked: >Is there a prescribed order to the subfields in 040? The instructions and form differ. We tend to be monkey see, monkey do, and LAC (which due to bilingualism has used 040$b for years) has alphabetic order. The MARC21 binders show them in alphabetical order. I see no re

Re: [RDA-L] Order of subfields in 040

2012-08-01 Thread Nathan Putnam
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Michael Cohen wrote: > The RDA Workform for Books includes this field (where XXX = OCLC institution > code): > XXX ǂb ǂe rda ǂc XXX > and MARC Field Help for 040 instructs: > Enter subfield ‡e immediately after subfield ‡a. > So which is wrong, the Workform or the

Re: [RDA-L] Order of subfields in 040

2012-08-01 Thread Paige G Andrew
I think Buzz got it right. In my experience if one is creating an original record OCLC puts it where it wants to (not sure if that means truly where it belongs?) but when I am working on enhancing/updating copy I have been adding it to the end of the string, and then when you finalize things OCL

Re: [RDA-L] Order of subfields in 040

2012-08-01 Thread Buzz Haughton
Hmmm. I've been adding $e rda at the end of the string; then, if and when I make additions and/or changes, the $d follows the $e. Does this matter? I think OCLC will arrange things in the 040 any way it likes. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Michael Cohen wrote: > The RDA Workform for Books incl

[RDA-L] Order of subfields in 040

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Cohen
The RDA Workform for Books includes this field (where XXX = OCLC institution code): XXX ǂb ǂe rda ǂc XXX and MARC Field Help for 040 instructs: Enter subfield ‡e immediately after subfield ‡a. So which is wrong, the Workform or the Field Help? -- _

Re: [RDA-L] Order of 040 subfields

2012-08-01 Thread Kadri, Carolyn J
For the 040, I have been trying to follow the order given in a new RDA workform; that is, $b eng followed by $e rda Don't know if it makes any difference or not what the order is. Carolyn Kadri Head Cataloger Special Collections University of Texas at Arlington Arlington, TX 76016 ka...@uta.edu

[RDA-L] Order of 040 subfields

2012-08-01 Thread Michael Cohen
Is there a prescribed order to the subfields in 040? I see some RDA records with $e after $a [e.g. OCLC #316058624] and some with $e between $b and $c [e.g. OCLC #699487827] and some with the subfields in alpha order [e.g. OCLC #780483684]. ??? --

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

2012-08-01 Thread Joan Wang
Yes, find it. Thanks. * "When constructing an authorized access point to represent a particular expression of a work or of a part or parts of a work, add to the authorized access point representing the work or a part or parts of the work an element or elements identifying that expression*". Joan

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

2012-08-01 Thread Peter Schouten
In FRBR, the title of expression is an attribute for the entity expression. But I could not find it in the RDA Toolkit. > Have you tried chapter 5, paragraph 5.5 in particular. It seems pretty > straightforward. Also, if a work can have an uniform title, a parallel uniform title, and variant t

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

2012-08-01 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, I am trying to catch on. I just read Robert's interesting comments on using 130 and 240 According to the FRBR's explanation, the title of work seems to refer to uniform titles, if my understanding is correct. *The title of the work is the word, phrase, or group of characters naming the work

Re: [RDA-L] Fw: What Goes into the 1xx Field?

2012-08-01 Thread M. E.
J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Karen Coyle said: > >>It doesn't matter if these are coded as multiple 1xx's or multiple 7xx's >>-- they are equal as authors ... > > How does one create an added entry, subject, entry, footnote, or > listing in a single entry bibliography for the work? Not to mention > as