Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-30 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Trina Pundurs posted: It's not clear to me from your question whether you are looking for a relationship designator to relate the chair to the work, or to the committee. We catalogue electronic documents harvested from th Web. Many are commissioned by, created by, or issued by committees which

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Muhammad Muawwad
Can we use Praeses? Muhammad A. Muawwad Systems Librarian, Retired muaw...@yahoo.com Cairo, Egypt Mobile : 0020122-7549005 From: J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair Kyle

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Joan Wang
the chair of a committee, it is a relationship of a person with a work? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Felix, Kyley kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.auwrote: I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. The term “chair” is not in the RDA toolkit’s list of

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mr. Muawwas asked: ACan we use Praeses? Yes. But since we doubt most would know that that means, we have suggested moderator and added thesis advisor. abridger actor addressee animator annotator appellant appellee architect [arranger] arranger of music [consider arranger] art

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Joan Wang asked: the chair of a committee, it is a relationship of a person with a work? In the case of committee reports, we consider it to be. Among the internet harvested electronic documents we catalogue for one e-aggregator, there are many government and private committee reports. __

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Trina Pundurs
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Felix, Kyley kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.auwrote: I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. The term “chair” is not in the RDA toolkit’s list of relationship designators. ** ** Does anybody have any suggestions, please?

[RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-28 Thread Felix, Kyley
I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. The term chair is not in the RDA toolkit's list of relationship designators. Does anybody have any suggestions, please? Many thanks. Kyley Felix Librarian Parliamentary Library Parliament House Harvest Tce Perth WA

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-06 Thread Nancy Braman
Quoting J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca: Then there are spirit writings and compositions; another version of as told to? Oh, dear. Now I'll be waiting to see $echanneller. (Kidding, honest!) The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a finite predetermined set of

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-06 Thread James Weinheimer
On 06/05/2013 15:27, Nancy Braman wrote: snip Quoting J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca: The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a finite predetermined set of terms. True; and it seems to be getting more complex all the time. /snip Yes. There is another aspect to this

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term

2013-05-06 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman said: The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a finite predetermined set of terms. True; and it seems to be getting more complex all the time. Appropriate $4codes or $eterms are lacking for some non complex situations, e.g., 111 conference heading for

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term

2013-05-06 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
The complexity and contiguity of the universe in general does not conform very well to static, controlled lists. This includes not only relationships but also names of things and people, abstractions and topics, and pretty much everything catalogers see fit to record and use as a 'controlled

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread Nancy Braman
To all who responded, thank you very much. (And no, I'm not quoting the whole digest at the end.) Bernadette and Heidrun: I'll probably go with author. An author's note explains that Mr. Young had made two previous attempts on his own, but they were unsatisfactory. His editor then suggested

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman said: It's not really in interview format; the narrative flows as if Mr. Young had had no assistance at all. It just doesn't feel like interviews. True. I was joking a bit, although I suspect questions were asked, suggestions were made, and narrative was edited by the

[RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Nancy Braman
What is the proper term for the person named in text as told to...? I've looked through the first draft and the MARC list and can't find anything appropriate. If it helps, the title page (in all caps in the book) reads as follows: The house Baba built An artist's childhood in China Text as

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. *** -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Joan Wang
Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to What is the proper term for the person named in text as told to...? I've looked through the first draft and the MARC list and can't find anything appropriate. If it helps

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to What is the proper term for the person named in text as told to...? I've looked through the first draft and the MARC list and can't find anything appropriate. If it helps

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
. *** -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to What is the proper

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman posted: The house Baba built An artist's childhood in China Text as told to Libby Kopolen Ed Young For Kopolen we would use: ivr Interviewer and for Young: ive Interviewee These codes (without the words) would go in $4, or the words (lower case and withouth the code) would

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread John Hostage
: Thursday, May 02, 2013 15:34 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to I haven't seen the book, so I'm not certain about the exact nature of Libby Kopolen's contribution. Does she act like some sort of interviewer, asking questions? Then I would agree that she