Re: [RDA-L] Profession or occupation

2012-01-27 Thread Adam L. Schiff
How about (Military officer : II) ? Grin ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff

Re: [RDA-L] Announcement: Publication of RDA terms for Content, Carrier, Media type vocabularies

2012-01-27 Thread Tillett, Barbara
RDA intentionally separates the storage and display of data (see RDA 0.1 Key Features). The controlled vocabulary used to record this data for RDA is the result of meetings with the publishing community that resulted in the RDA/ONIX Framework. The goal was to use terminology common to the

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread Tillett, Barbara
RDA 9.3.2 Date of birth and RDA 9.3.3 Date of death are specific elements to identify a person. They are Core, meaning they should be included in a description of a person. Only the date (may include year, month, and day) needs to be given, as the name of the element identifies it as birth

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread Tillett, Barbara
RDA still very much respects ISBD. Fruitful harmonization meetings with the JSC and the ISBD Review Group representatives were part of the JSC meeting in Glasgow. You may wish to follow the outcomes from the Glasgow meeting found on the JSC Web site at http://www.rda-jsc.org/out.html .

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread Damian Iseminger
I don't really want to fan the flames any more than is necessary, but I think a few responses are in order. Bibliographic record sharing: Multiple language versions of bibliographic records of the same resource already exist in our bibliographic utilities. How in the world does RDA impede

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Damian Iseminger asked: Do the bibliographic records that SLC produces contain only internationally acceptable abbreviations or words? What do you do when the need arises to make a note? When producing records for a bilingual catalogue, we use ISBD Latin abbreviations, use notes in the language

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Barbara said: RDA still very much respects ISBD. So why abandon ISBD brief Latin abbreviations inclusions, which are ideal for display in any language? Why computer rather than electronic as a media type? Seems pretty disrespectful to me. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod

Re: [RDA-L] MARC records in a bilingual catalogue

2012-01-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Damian Iseminger asked: Do the bibliographic records that SLC produces contain only internationally acceptable abbreviations or words? I should have added that for French items going to a French or French/English bilingual catalogue, we will change map to carte. The ISBD abbreviations p.,

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread Tillett, Barbara
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but you should know the JSC greatly respects and is working with the ISBD Review Group to keep things harmonized, so records created using either ISBD or RDA for description are compatible. The ISBD Review Group is examining where they are no longer

Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates

2012-01-27 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
IFLA principle 2.2. states: Common usage. Vocabulary used in descriptions and access should be in accord with that of the majority of users. My question remains: how do we know what vocabulary the majority of users expect to find in a catalog? Have any empirical studies been done on the

Re: [RDA-L] Abandoning ISBD language neutrality

2012-01-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Barbara said: The 1970's ideas of UBC requiring everyone in the world to use the same form of heading (authority control) and the same bibliographic description that was created by each national bibliographic agency for the publishing output of their country is anachronistic in today's