My concern is that if you have
336 spoken word $2 rdacontent
337 audio $2 rdamedia
338 other $2 rda carrier
How do they know that that this thing is a Playaway, unless you say it's a
Playaway in the 300? And for matching, you must have consistency. Even for
human beings, we need
Yep, there's no way to know.
It seems to me that there needs to be an additional vocabulary term
added to legal ones in 338 that describes a playaway somehow. It might
not _specifically_ identify a playaway(tm), you might need to look in
non-controlled fields to see that still. But there
Correct me if I'm wrong, but was it not at least partially because of such
new media and the mixing of electronic with other characteristics (such as
audio or visual materials) (especially materials on the Internet) that
actually began this whole movement toward a new set of rules other than
On 4/22/2011 3:30 PM, Deborah Fritz wrote:
People *will* be entering free text as this RDA element, so I would like to
know whether anyone has figured out some way that matching algorythms will
be able to reliably match descriptions without the use of consistent terms
in this element.
No, and
Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
One idea is if perhaps the matching algorithm could use the new 3xx fields
instead of the 300 type of unit free text. Of course, that relies on the
new 3xx fields using only controlled terms, which I'm not sure is the case
(but should be!).
Assuming
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Ed,
Are you saying that you would call it a:
300 1 pre-recorded MP3 player
, 2011 5:07 PM
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Ed,
Are you saying that you would call it a:
300 1 pre-recorded MP3 player ?
Just curious!
Thanks,
Julie
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu wrote:
FWIW, ONIX calls
But what you do in the local catalog, does not actually stay in the local
catalog, because records get batchloaded to WorldCat and other union
catalogs (or catalogues) and, when that happens, what then will happen with
the matching algorythms for deduping records if each record has a different
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But what you do in the local catalog, does not actually stay in the local
catalog, because records get
Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
I thought that RDA as a code used neither GMD _nor_ SMD, replacing those with
the data elements that end up in the new mac 3xx fields? Can anyone confirm
that, that there is no notion of 'smd' in RDA?
The 300 $a includes what could be called an SMD,
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Jonathan Rochkind
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I thought that RDA as a code used neither GMD _nor_ SMD,
replacing those with the data elements
And herein lies my point ... I am seeking consistency!
Julie
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Deborah Fritz
debo...@marcofquality.comwrote:
But what you do in the local catalog, does *not* actually stay in the
local catalog, because records get batchloaded to WorldCat and other union
Of Amanda Xu
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways
Julie and Ed:
Here is what I would do for cross-mapping between ONIX 2.1 MARC 21
considering the fact that 1) what is the easiest way to conversion; 2) much of
our data
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Julie and Ed:
Here is what I would do for cross-mapping between ONIX 2.1 MARC 21
considering the fact that 1) what is the easiest way to conversion; 2) much
of our data are still in AACR2:
*ONIX Tag*
*b012*
*b333*
*b210*
*ONIX
Jones
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FWIW, ONIX calls it a pre-recorded MP3 player, which also seems to be the
name used in the marketplace, if a Google search I just did is any indication
(1.5 million results
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:20 AM
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Apparently ONIX now calls
Ed,
Are you saying that you would call it a:
300 1 pre-recorded MP3 player ?
Just curious!
Thanks,
Julie
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Ed Jones ejo...@nu.edu wrote:
FWIW, ONIX calls it a pre-recorded MP3 player, which also seems to be the
name used in the marketplace, if a Google
As long as we are looking at cataloging kits using RDA, I am also wondering
if people have cataloged playaways using RDA? (Is there a way to search
specifically for playaways with RDA records on OCLC?)
While I have been studying RDA and its relationship to playaways, I must say
that I am a tad
Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as we are looking at cataloging kits using RDA, I am also wondering
if people have cataloged playaways using RDA? (Is there a way to search
specifically for playaways with RDA records on OCLC?)
dx:rda and kw:playaway? brought up a few
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Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as we are looking at cataloging kits
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 1:57 PM
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A few explanations about BYU's RDA records for Playaways.
In the 300 field we used 1 sound media player ..., the same as had been used
previously in AACR2. I see the non-BYU RDA records
: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Cataloging playaways
Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
As long as we are looking at cataloging kits using RDA, I am also wondering
if people have cataloged playaways using RDA? (Is there a way to search
Robert Maxwell said:
In the 300 field we used 1 sound media player ..., the same as had
been used previously in AACR2. I see the non-BYU RDA records for
Playaways used 1 audio media player ... which is probably more in
the spirit of RDA, which changed most of the sound SMDs to audio.
There isn't
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