Some AACR2-isms, like [s.l.], seem pretty clearly to be outside of the norm
for an English-speaking person who is not a cataloger or a pedant (but perhaps
I repeat myself, here ;)). But others, like circa or flourished seem less
clear-cut. (They both show up in Webster's, for example.) And
] Showing birth and death dates
Some AACR2-isms, like [s.l.], seem pretty clearly to be outside of the norm
for an English-speaking person who is not a cataloger or a pedant (but perhaps
I repeat myself, here ;)). But others, like circa or flourished seem less
clear-cut. (They both show up
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joseph, Angelina
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:15 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates
We are talking about English, French and German. What about other languages of
the world? Is not universality the whole scope
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates
Barbara said:
For a non-English catalog, the English term born or died (if
needed) would be replaced by appropriate terms in the language of the
cataloging agency.
Wouldn't this impede bibliographic record sharing, and UBC? Why are we
: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:41 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates
Barbara said:
For a non-English catalog, the English term born or died (if
needed) would be replaced by appropriate terms in the language of the
cataloging agency.
Wouldn't
Damian Iseminger asked:
Do the bibliographic records that SLC produces contain only
internationally acceptable abbreviations or words? What do you do
when the need arises to make a note?
When producing records for a bilingual catalogue, we use ISBD Latin
abbreviations, use notes in the language
Barbara said:
RDA still very much respects ISBD.
So why abandon ISBD brief Latin abbreviations inclusions, which are
ideal for display in any language?
Why computer rather than electronic as a media type?
Seems pretty disrespectful to me.
__ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod
-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates
Barbara said:
RDA still very much respects ISBD.
So why abandon ISBD brief Latin abbreviations inclusions, which are ideal for
display in any language?
Why computer rather than electronic as a media type?
Seems pretty disrespectful to me
IFLA principle 2.2. states: Common usage. Vocabulary used in descriptions and
access should be in accord with that
of the majority of users. My question remains: how do we know what vocabulary
the majority of users expect to find in a catalog? Have any empirical
studies been done on the
This is true, of course. I find I consult French authority records (which
indicate gender), directly or shown in VIAF, more often than others; it applies
also to Latin and Greek, though the instances when Latin, or pre-modern Greek,
would call for masculine/feminine distinctions in cataloguing
Note that this is not peculiar to French. (Spanish, German, Russian,
Italian,... all share this feature)
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:51 PM, J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote:
Friend Hal from down under has pointed out yet another problem with
RDA words rather than hyphens, when only one of
/ Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Adger Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:14 AM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Showing birth and death dates
Note that this is not peculiar to French. (Spanish, German, Russian
Adgar Williams said:
Note that this [different gender forms of born and died] is not
peculiar to French. (Spanish, German, Russian, Italian,... all
share this feature)
In bilingual Canada, French is of course of most concern to us.
Let's hope LAC and EURIG has the good sense to reject this
Friend Hal from down under has pointed out yet another problem with
RDA words rather than hyphens, when only one of birth or death date is
known. The words in French would differ with gender:
... the need to distinguish gender in French: né masc., née fem. for
'born', mort/morte for 'died'.
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