This is somewhat implied by the snippet from Marjorie Bloss below, but I'd be
interested in opinions as to whether this model would work:
1. What if OCLC makes RDA available to its subscribers online, as it does with
Bibliographic Formats Standards?
2. OCLC adds an annual surcharge to its
Is anyone else having problems using the Workflow function? I particularly
dislike the way it jumps to the beginning whenever I toggle back to the
Workflow window. Is there a color or highlighter function that I'm
overlooking? The program does considerable reformatting for copy pasted into it
Since today is Sept. 1, I am assuming our subscription for x number of
concurrent users is in place. We are accessing via IP address. In Cataloger's
Desktop and ClassWeb, there are buttons to log out when a user session is done.
I don't find one in the RDA Toolkit display. Do we just need to
Is there no cataloger option to limit the number of parallel titles proper to
transcribe?
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And, since the parallel titles proper can be taken from anywhere on the
resource, I can imagine this being an occasional problem with the publications
of international bodies. Maybe there will be an amendment or LCPS revision
following testing if enough people catalog UN publications.
I have been trying to figure out how end punctuation in MARC 21 is applied in
RDA in combination with ISBD and my conclusion is that the editors of RDA the
LCPS decided to make using ISBD with RDA so complicated that the cataloging
world would hasten to abandon ISBD, which I assume is one of
The rules for capitalization in AACR2 (and default RDA, which carries them
over) are very complex and quite difficult for trainees to grasp, even more so
when working with multiple languages. If one is running a minimal level
project, it eats into training time, and, since it is pretty much
This might be of interest--
http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/alcts/confevents/upcoming/webinar/cat/031611.cfm
Steven Arakawa
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Or, wait for Maxwell's handbook for RDA. I'm sure there will be a market for
a how-to book or books for libraries that only need to perform original
cataloging once in a while, and there will be plenty of lead time to develop
such a text. As Mike implies, there will undoubtedly be a long
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Regarding capitalization--I looked at a sample of the all caps 100/245 Matthew
Beacom ran through MARCEDIT. MARCEDIT converted
I'm struggling with the theoretical foundations myself, so take it with a grain
of salt as I try to walk my way through it. With regard to electronic readers,
library cataloging focuses on the content as modeled by the FRBR WEMI. You
catalog the e-book, not the Kindle reader. You catalog the
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If a statement of responsibility is not available on the source for the title
proper, the statement of responsibility for the title proper can be taken from
anywhere in the resource [2.4.2.2]. If the SoR is not anywhere in the resource,
the 2.2.4 rule requires a note. While only the first SoR
Just wondering--if the statement of responsibility does not need to be
bracketed (or justified) if not transcribed from the chief source--does this
change the concept of usage in the determination of preferred form of access?
What exactly is usage in the RDA environment?
Steven Arakawa
If I am cataloging a book and describe it in the physical description other
physical details as all color illustrations or chiefly color illustrations
or chiefly illustrations etc should the rda content term be still image or
text or both? Should it have an impact on the MARC Leader? Am I
When I attended the RDA 101 ALA preconference, one of the things that stuck
with me was the RDA rule 2.4.1.8. AACR2 1.1F12 makes a fine distinction between
noun phrases that are indicative of the nature of the work and noun phrases
that are indicative of the role of the person named in the
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Forwarding for Angela Kinney. Link at the bottom of the message is to the ppt
or Word presentations for Midwinter 2012 2011 Annual 2011. Apologies in
advance for duplication.
Here's the agenda for the Midwinter 2012 meeting:
ALCTS CaMMS Copy Cataloging Interest Group Dallas Convention
Since we don't enter parentheses around the series statement or add ISSN to
it when we create MARC records, I've always assumed it was a convention that
the punctuation and text would be provided by the computer when the MARC data
was output as card or OPAC display. Since all of the elements in
I think that is the intention. It was brought up as an RDA change from AACR2 at
an early ALA pre-conference I attended. AACR2 1.1F12: Treat a noun phrase
occurring in conjunction with a statement of responsibility as other title
information if it is indicative of the nature of the work. RDA
Refer to LC/PCC PS 3.1.4
Lots of examples given.
336, 337,338 can be repeated. See MARC 21 for Bibliographic Records for
examples. If the accompanying material differs, use separate 33x's where
applicable.
See also the LC Training Materials, Module 1.
I don't recall that anyone has mentioned that during the RDA test period, the
copyright date was core. Since 264 had not yet been implemented, it would
explain why 260 fields in RDA records include both the publication date and the
copyright date or the inferred publication date and the
We don't display the new 3xx fields in our OPAC either; I've always thought it
was obvious from the controlled, technical vocabulary used in $a $2 that
336-338 $a and $2 were not intended for display. However, in our system the
fields are keyword indexed. In the current and near future
Kevin, you're right--thanks for pointing this out. The example would have been
helped with an additional 3xx for the primary content/media/carrier type.
However, I still think the fields themselves could be translated into more
comprehensible terms in the OPAC, especially if labels were
The record doesn't appear to be following the current LC PCC Policy Statements.
The 347 field I believe applies to the online resource, not the printed
version. Since RDA emphasizes showing relationships to the extent possible, you
might find a useful model in the LCPS 27.1.1.3 Referencing
I don't think you can use 533 since it is intended to apply to the
reproduction. I was wondering if 534 $p should read Reproduction of
(manifestation): followed by the details of the original in the appropriate
subfields. The current LCPS uses 775 or 776, but both examples seem to assume
an
thought that OCLC control number is mandatory. If it is not, there
would be no problem.
Thanks again,
Joan
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I don't think you can use 533 since it is intended to apply to the
reproduction
On the topic of linking in the earlier thread, what would be the relationship
for the Group 1 category for exhibition catalogs in these situations?
a. An exhibition catalog and a commercial publication of the catalog.
775 $i Related (manifestation): citation??
b. A travelling
to the AACR2-trained eye, but is logical
and reasonably transparent. What are other people thinking?
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On the topic of linking in the earlier thread, what would be the relationship
for the Group
Appendix I definition: writer of added commentary: A person, family, or
corporate body contributing to an expression of a work by providing an
interpretation or critical explanation of the original work.
I do not think of authors of introductions as writers of added commentary;
these seem to be
Did I understand this correctly?
1. Parallel title proper on the cover but not on the title page: transcribe
parallel title from cover as part of the title statement transcription (in MARC
245) without brackets. (which has been my practice) It's hard to imagine any
justification for recording
I was also concerned about clarity in both training and MARC 246 applications
if in practice we used variant title for what I would have called the other
title on the cover. Reworded the guidelines would result in:
If the presentation on the cover is ambiguous -- the variant title could
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I don't think the definition of color would apply to illustrations, since the
rule explicitly excludes black and white or shades of grey.
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I believe the LC PCC PS for 1.7.1 (the section on end punctuation of variable
fields) does allow the cataloger to avoid the absurdity of adding an additional
period when the edition statement ends with an abbreviation. I've often
wondered why we can leave off the brackets in 240 or ISSN in the
LC PCC PS 1.7.1. Punctuation in Notes. 3. Square brackets.
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Joan, I think you're assuming that an authority record will be created for
every new name cataloged under RDA. In practice, I doubt this will happen..
Does AACR2 state explicitly that affiliations are to be left out of the
statement of responsibility? I don't see anything in 1.1F7 that seems
There is no equivalent to LCRI 25.8/25.9 (adding a date to Works/Selections) in
RDA or the LC PCC PS as far as I know, so maybe you don’t have a problem?
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Per LC PCC PS 2.8.6.6 adding the copyright 264 _4 field is optional as long as
264 _1 doesn't have [date of publication not identified]. LC training's best
practice is to supply an inferred date instead of [date of publication not
identified] since when the not identified filler is used, RDA
on here??
--Ben
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MIT Libraries
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Curiously, in AACR2 2.5B7, the initial term in the extent examples is ca.
which is now approximately in RDA, but it's ca. not Ca. Was AACR2 being
inconsistent with ISBD in the examples?
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How about a translation of the interview?
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RDA 2.4.2.2. lists the same source as the title proper only as first in order
of preference. Second in order of preference is another source within the
resource. I believe it is the other title that must come from the same source
as the title proper, but the SoR is not covered by the other
In the original question, it isn't clear where (Large print) would be entered
in MARC 300. In AACR2 MARC records, it is entered in 300 $a per 2.5B23, but
there isn't a corresponding instruction in RDA. In RDA extent (300 $a) is
limited to the number of units and subunits (3.4.1.1). Since Large
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In the original question, it isn't clear where (Large print) would be entered
in MARC 300. In AACR2 MARC records, it is entered in 300 $a per 2.5B23, but
there isn't a corresponding instruction in RDA. In RDA extent (300 $a) is
limited
I believe there are guidelines in LC PCC PS 25.1.1.3?
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Based on the layout in the scan, I would have transcribed the 100. Deutscher
Bibliothekartag as the title proper, Bibliotheken fur die Zukunft as the other
title, and Herausgaben von Ulrich Hohoff etc as the statement of
responsibility. I would have provided variant access for the other
A question on relationship designators and corporate bodies that perhaps
someone with more expertise can explain.
Appendix I, I.2. is divided into 2 sections. I.2.1. Relationship designators
for creators and I.2.2. Relationship designators for other persons, families or
corporate bodies
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A question on relationship designators and corporate bodies that
perhaps someone with more expertise can explain
I believe so. LC practice (as distinguished from PCC practice) is to require
RDs only for illustrators of children's books, although that doesn't mean LC
catalogers cannot make individual decisions to add RDs in other categories. And
I see the PCC guidelines more as best practice rather than
I can't offer much help in situations 1.-3., but I do catalog a lot of
brochures for one of our special collections devoted to color-- sales
catalogs for paint and fabrics, where the paint chip and fabric samples need
to be distinguished from the period illustrations that are also featured (at
Adam, that has always been my understanding. If I recall correctly, in the very
early introductions to RDA done by Judy Kuhagen, the double punctuation was
pointed out; I believe the PS was updated later to avoid the absurdity.
Steven Arakawa
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If all work/expression AAPs are entered as 700 a/t analytics, the title in 245
is exposed and the incidence of conflicts requiring 130 would increase
substantially, no? And if pcc requires an AR for the 130, that would mean more
authority work or, more likely, fewer bib records coded as pcc.
What I was thinking of was:
100 Smith, John
240 Poems. Selections
245 Nature / poems by John Smith and Joan Jones.
700 12 Jones, Joan. Poems. Selections.
In catalog:
245 Nature : festschrift for Jacques Cousteau.
If 100/240 is eliminated:
130 Nature (Vanity Press)
245 Nature / selected
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What I was thinking
, John. Nature
Smith, John. Sea
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of the publisher, as in Sea (Vanity Press). But it could
just have easily been something like Sea (Poetry anthology : 2005)
or many other formulations.
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University of Washington Libraries
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When training, I like to use the LC cataloging for ISBN 9781401310646 (LCCN
2011015148). The record was cataloged following AACR2, but it’s easy to see how
a fictitious character AAP would be used in RDA. This is clearly not a
pseudonym situation.
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The question came up, as I recall, at one of the Bibco training sessions, with
Voltaire as the example. If I recall correctly, the trainer referred to RDA
9.2.2.3: When choosing the preferred name for the person, generally choose the
name by which the person is commonly known. The name chosen
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The question came up, as I recall, at one of the Bibco training sessions, with
Voltaire as the example. If I recall correctly, the trainer referred to RDA
(KC) I am really asking about variant access points for the works. If there is
an authorized access point for a work under an author's real identity, and we
have decided that he/she is so well-known that none of his/her alternate
identities need to be given life as NARs in their own
Isn't the decision based on whether the manifestation in hand represents a
revised edition of the original work or a new work in itself? If it's simply a
revision, changing the creator/work relationship seems problematic. If the
changes have resulted in a new work, then a new creator/work
I notice that Amazon is selling RDA for Kindle @$120, which seems to be within
the range of college textbooks these days. To quote:
This e-book contains the 2013 Revision of RDA: Resource Description and
Access, and includes the July 2013 Update. This e-book offers links within the
RDA text
and Access
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