Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-09 Thread Gavin
Yes indeed, The post bellow is exactly how I feel about rdiff-backup. Having been using rdiff-backup for a long time and watching this list for just as long I have seen many of these little 'hairs' grow. As a user I can't believe that the core code is that bad or thrown away, since rdiff-backup

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-07 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/06/2010 10:32 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: But I would say on encryption and de duplication - why not leave that to the filesystem - stay focused on what rdiff-backup does best - differential backups, you can get de duplication, compression and encryption file systems why not leave it to

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-07 Thread Greg Freemyer
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Nicolas Jungers nico...@jungers.net wrote: On 04/06/2010 10:32 PM, Alexander Samad wrote: But I would say on encryption and de duplication - why not leave that to the filesystem - stay focused on what rdiff-backup does best - differential backups, you can get

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-07 Thread rader
fyi: what is a spare file? typo that should read sparse file? (look it up on wikipedia.) steve -- ___ rdiff-backup-users mailing list at rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/rdiff-backup-users Wiki URL:

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-07 Thread covici
Randy Syring rsyr...@inteli-com.com wrote: Daniel Miller wrote: I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when I dug into the

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Miller
I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when [snip] I'm not a coder... [snip] Now, on top of that I'd like to have all the

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-06 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/06/2010 02:34 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when [snip] I'm not a coder... [snip] Now, on

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-06 Thread Randy Syring
Daniel Miller wrote: I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when I dug into the current codebase and discovered its disappointing

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Josh, Development on rdiff-backup has stagnated for the last while. I think that this is attributable to several reasons: * Andrew has dropped of the face of the earth, (he's working on graduate studies, IIRC) and I've been busy with other things. Since we're the two core maintainers,

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Josh Nisly
Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Josh, Development on rdiff-backup has stagnated for the last while. I think that this is attributable to several reasons: * Andrew has dropped of the face of the earth, (he's working on graduate studies, IIRC) and I've been busy with other things. Since we're the two

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Scott Carpenter
Josh Nisly spake thusly on 04/06/2010 09:27 AM: I'm a little torn - I don't want to discourage you from starting from scratch at all, but I think that the current codebase has lots of value in it that make it worth salvaging. I can understand where you're coming from to start a new version,

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Miller
I'm looking forwarding to hearing your responses. Are you sure about that? :) Here's my personal perspective. Our current users get grumpy when we change the wire protocol across major versions - I suspect that losing backwards compatibility at the repository level would be a deal-killer

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 11:59:55AM -0400, Daniel Miller wrote: Hmm, ok, I'll rename it. It will likely be a completely new project. I'd like to explore deduplication anyway, which requires an even bigger divergence from the rdiff-backup design (it will likely eliminate the current mirror in

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/06/2010 05:59 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hmm, ok, I'll rename it. It will likely be a completely new project. I'd like to explore deduplication anyway, which requires an even bigger divergence from the rdiff-backup design (it will likely eliminate the current mirror in favor of a

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development

2010-04-06 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/06/2010 05:59 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: [snip] As it is, I believe the current repository design is flawed with a performance issue that gets worse with bigger backup sets and long-term use. I don't know if that can be fixed without changing the [snip] Without prejudging, is it

[Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-06 Thread Josh Nisly
Oops, meant to include the list. ---BeginMessage--- Daniel Miller wrote: I'm looking forwarding to hearing your responses. Are you sure about that? :) Absolutely! I really would be excited about another project that uses some of the same algorithms. As I said, more competition is

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-06 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/06/2010 06:35 PM, Josh Nisly wrote: The more I think about it, the more I think starting another project isn't an all bad solution - I think we may have increasingly divergent goals. For myself, having a current mirror is well worth the cost in disk space; it means that it's much easier to

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-06 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi rdiff-backup user, part time programmer. I would love to see some more work on rdiff-backup, love to get some bugs fixed and see some performance increase, not going to comment on rewrite or fix the current code base - I haven't really looked at the code. But I would say on encryption and de

Re: [Fwd: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development]

2010-04-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 06:32:04AM +1000, Alexander Samad wrote: But I would say on encryption and de duplication - why not leave that to the filesystem - stay focused on what rdiff-backup does best - differential backups, you can get de duplication, compression and encryption file systems why

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-05 Thread Daniel Miller
I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when I dug into the current codebase and discovered its disappointing quality. While what I

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 02:25:27PM -0400, Daniel Miller wrote: - Did I mention that the new version has been developed from the ground up with full unicode support? Please note that this new version will obviously not be backward compatible with older rdiff-backup repositories. While a tool

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-05 Thread Willard Korfhage
Two questions: 1) are you planning to better handle renamed files? That's killin' me. I have thought about this, and I don't think it would be too hard to implement this using inode tracking. However, it might incur more memory overhead. Input is welcome. I'm a former rdiff-backup

Re: [rdiff-backup-users] Restarting development ... or starting over

2010-04-05 Thread Nicolas Jungers
On 04/05/2010 08:25 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: I wasn't really prepared to make this announcement so soon, but now seems like a good time to let the community know. I've been working on a new implementation of rdiff-backup since about a month ago when [snip] I'm not a coder, an mainly a lurker