Re: [RE-wrenches] Housekeeping stuff

2009-05-06 Thread Allan Sindelar
1. There is so much funky stuff out there (these inverters, ebooks on how to power your home with a homemade wind generator or PV module for $200, vertical axis yard art, H2 gasoline eliminators, etc.) that I really would like to keep it off the list and keep the discussions to real Wrench-related

[RE-wrenches] Housekeeping stuff

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Welch
Wrenches. This gives me the opportunity to make two points. If you have any questions or concerns: contact me off list off list off list. 1. There is so much funky stuff out there (these inverters, ebooks on how to power your home with a homemade wind generator or PV module for $200, vertical axi

[RE-wrenches] XW search mode.

2009-05-06 Thread jay peltz
I'm having some trouble getting a XW6048 to come out of search mode for some 200 watts of fluorescent lights. yes its set to 25 watts It'll run other things, but not that? Tech help wasn't any help. The manual says that fluorescents are a problem, but 200 watts? Any body else?? thanks, jay

Re: [RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Orion Thornton
Your right Allan, not quite what I am looking for but Chris's system sounds worthy of a HP article itself. As with most products these days our customers want nice packaged units in lieu of the self engineered systems. Not that say they are not great solutions, but more difficult to sell a custome

Re: [RE-wrenches] Target Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Bob-O, Opening the ungrounded circuits at (near) the source is the only thing that is going to provide real protection. Moving the GFP to the combiner would help in that sense. But the current sensing scheme would still be dependent on there being a single ground connection. An undetected

Re: [RE-wrenches] Target Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Kent, Sort of makes the case for the GFPs to be in the combiner boxes on large systems, doesn't it? Obviously nearly worthless at the inverter in this case. Bob-O On May 6, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Kent Osterberg wrote: Richard, I 100% agree with you. The thing that concerns me most is that the

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Matt Lafferty
Hey Marv (and anybody else who took exception to my tongue-all-the-way-inside-cheek Enphase comment), Sarcasm R Me. Why would anybody buy this "experimental device" for 3 bills when they could buy an Enphase "No Longer An Experimental Device" for so much less $? Can't say how much less since disc

Re: [RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Richard L Ratico
Orion, Check this out: www.freewatt.com/ Made in the USA. It's for real. Honda makes the genset part of it. Might work well offgrid in an AC coupled system. Relatively new. Might not be available in your area yet. Dick Solarwind Electric --- You wrote: Does anyone have any experience with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Target Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Drake Chamberlin
the GFP scheme that our industry has relied on to provide fire protection doesn't work very well. This has been a continual rant of mine since the GFP first became required. It needs to open the circuit near the source of the power if it is to be effective. Drake Chamberlin Athens Elect

Re: [RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Allan Sindelar
Wow, I like that. I have an off-grid client with an Outback quad-stack and a 20kW Onan liquid-cooled gennie who will be burying lines to run coolant from the gennie to a boiler loop for in floor radiant. Photos are in the gennie article in the next HP. This is a first; none of our customers has eve

Re: [RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Carl Emerson
Orion, This is a good product but not sure if available in the US. http://www.whispergen.com/ Carl Emerson Free Power Ltd. Auckland NZ _ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Orion Thornton Sent: 7

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Wayne Irwin
I bought the "Plug-In Inverter" and the "Hydrogen Generator" and now that my house is on fire and my car exploded I can say that I gave my all to going green! Wayne Irwin, President Pure Energy Solar International Inc. State Licensed Solar Contractor License # CVC56695 wa...@pureenergysola

Re: [RE-wrenches] Target Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Kent Osterberg
Richard, I 100% agree with you. The thing that concerns me most is that the last exhibit in the report shows that the GFP scheme that our industry has relied on to provide fire protection doesn't work very well.  As PV system size gets larger there are more and more opportunities for an undet

Re: [RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Worcester
Hi Orion, My used 1967 flat head four cylinder powered 10kW Kohler LPG unit came with the outputs from the block for plumbing in a car heater, so I adapted it to a homemade heat exchange system. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to modify the radiator hoses with some custom tees to do the same

[RE-wrenches] CHP Generator

2009-05-06 Thread Orion Thornton
Wrenches, Does anyone have any experience with or have a product they can recommend for a combined heat and power generator, specifically for an off-grid application. The prospective client would like to combine the electrical generation/charging capacity with their planned in-floor radiant he

Re: [RE-wrenches] Target Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Richard L Ratico
Kent, I'm trying not to lose sight of the forest for the trees here. I agree that the expansion joint is probably completely functional. It also appears to be a well intentioned effort by the installer to anticipate and compensate for the inevitable movement in the conduit run. The installer took

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Fire

2009-05-06 Thread Richard L Ratico
Hi Bob, In this case it probably has to be a "bandit". I don't believe 600V DC breakers are available yet. Dick --- You wrote: The DC disco coming off the PV breaker box might be a good idea. With this case showing that. We know that we can open the box and kill all the breakers but few others

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Marv Dargatz
I wonder how long until one of these starts a fire in a non-dedicated branch circuit in a home. Think about it.  There's a VERY GOOD REASON for requiring utility interactive inverters to be tied to a dedicated branch circuit. See Ya! Marv Enphase Energy 707 763-4784 x7016 Matt Lafferty w

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Wind-sun.com
You **KNOW** they are cutting edge when they cannot even spell panel correctly... "No batteries are needed using this Inverter with a solar panal system..." .. Northern Arizona Wind & Sun - Electric

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Dave Click
I'm not sure what my favorite part is: 1. the note at the bottom of the page of "NOTE: This unit is NOT UL listed so it can only be represented as an experimental device. It does shut down and disconnect from the grid if it senses that the grid has gone down (power outage). This protects utilit

Re: [RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread Matt Lafferty
I wonder if Target is selling these yet... I wonder if I could get the customer list of people who buy these things... I wonder how many of them got to the bottom of the page: NOTE: This unit is NOT UL listed so it can only be represented as an experimental device. It does shut down and disconne

[RE-wrenches] plug in gridtied inverter

2009-05-06 Thread jay peltz
What you think of this! http://www.wildnaturesolutions.com/200winverter.html Yikes, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watering Systems

2009-05-06 Thread Randy Brooks
Wayne, If you use an automatic battery watering system, make sure it is intended to be used on the make and model of battery you have. If not, it may underfill or overfill battery cells. Randy Brooks Brooks Solar, Inc. Solar Power for People 140 Columbia View Chelan, WA 98816 509-682-9646

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watering Systems

2009-05-06 Thread Drake Chamberlin
Try The Solar Biz. At 08:48 AM 5/6/2009, you wrote: Has anyone found a reliable battery watering system? Wayne Irwin, President Pure Energy Solar International Inc. State Licensed Solar Contractor License # CVC56695 wa...@pureenergysolar.net http://pureenergy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Watering Systems

2009-05-06 Thread jay peltz
Hi Wayne, I've used the following, and sure like them. http://www.batteryfillingsystems.com/ jay peltz power On May 6, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Wayne Irwin wrote: Has anyone found a reliable battery watering system? Wayne Irwin, President Pure Energy Solar International Inc. State Licensed Solar

[RE-wrenches] Battery Watering Systems

2009-05-06 Thread Wayne Irwin
Has anyone found a reliable battery watering system? Wayne Irwin, President Pure Energy Solar International Inc. State Licensed Solar Contractor License # CVC56695 wa...@pureenergysolar.net http://pureenergysolar.net 352 377-6527 Office Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:42:03 -0700 To: re-wr