Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Jamie Johnson
Nick, 50+% greater output with enphase than unshaded kWh estimates with a string inverter? That is what my comment referenced, the practice of some installers of taking pvwatts with a 0.85 derate(no shading) multiplying it by 1.5 or more just to get the sale. A kWh performance guarantee

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Drake
I'm now monitoring a 5.376 kW system we recently installed. The sun is barely up, with light clouds, and a portion of the array is still in shade. The system is putting out 700 watts. A string inverter would probably be waiting to start. My main problem with the Enphase is the 199 watt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Nick Soleil
Yes Jamie: I understood what you were saying, and that is too bad. Maybe the sales guys are complete fools, or they are dishonest, or the customer's are misunderstanding what is being said. However, due to the major advantages to offering Enphase, you should consider adding it to your

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter 1741 Listing Process

2010-10-11 Thread Exeltech
Matt, The 5-minute delay is verified in the group of inverters sent to the test laboratory.  Then, as long as the software and hardware don't change, it's presumed the delay in all production units meets the value(s) measured in the tested units. An alteration in either hardware OR software

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Keith Cronin
Perhaps some day in the not too distant future, we will switch from tax credits (like in Hawaii) to performance based incentives and this topic will be resolved from empirical evidence vs unsubstantiated claims. Then the educated public can see a side by side comparison. This would have to have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello Drake, I have observed hundreds of PV systems in the early morning and can say without doubt that string inverters are not inherently slow to wake up. For example, today my 12 year old SW4048 with a single crystal PV array facing south at 12 and 18 degrees tilt and my SB2100 with a

[RE-wrenches] Power line shading

2010-10-11 Thread Eric Thomas
Hey there, We have a string inverter system installation coming up that has a power line suspended over the roof. The line is diagonal to the roof and about 20' above the surface. It will be very challenging to configure the strings to mitigate shading. Does anyone have experience with the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase v. string inverter

2010-10-11 Thread Drake
Hello Joel, The issue is that over half the array was in shade. I don't think there would have been enough string voltage to start a string inverter. Cheers, Drake At 11:33 AM 10/11/2010, you wrote: Hello Drake, I have observed hundreds of PV systems in the early morning and can say

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power line shading

2010-10-11 Thread benn kilburn
Hey Eric,This was discussed somewhat back in early Sept under the subject line Wiley Assett. This topic, with some great insight, should have been discussed under its' own subject line but My bad! benn DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. b...@daystarsolar.ca780-906-7807 HAVE A SUNNY DAY

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power line shading

2010-10-11 Thread Kent Osterberg
Eric, I've got a photo essay about one incident that I prepared on just this topic. It shows photos of the shadow from a triplex cable that is about 5 feet from a PV crossing several modules. The shadow only lasts for about 40 minutes very early in the morning, but it reduces the output by

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side connection to a dedicated panel

2010-10-11 Thread Dave Palumbo
We are installing a 8kW grid tied PV system for a commercial client. There is an auto start generator on the premises, therefore we will be utilizing a supply side AC point of connection. Inverter is an SMA SB8000. System owner plans on adding to system in the next few years. We are designing for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side connection to a dedicated panel

2010-10-11 Thread Philip Boutelle
Dave, I think you are reading the output current for 277V. The spec sheet lists AC max output at 240V as 7700W and 32A. If you take that number at face value, you can still just use a 40A breaker. If you do the math based on their listed output (7700W/240V=32.1A * 1.25 = 40.1A), you might need