[RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion

2011-07-19 Thread Peter Parrish
I need to give a group of California educators the simplified explanation of inverter anti-islanding. I know the full details are quite complicated and have evolved a bit over the past few years, but would the following be an acceptable short explanation? *** Please contact me off-list with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion

2011-07-19 Thread R Ray Walters
If you wouldn't mind Peter, I'd like to see this discussion stay on the list. I'd be interested to learn more about the actual anti-islanding features of inverters. What you've described seems to just cover the voltage and frequency windows that the inverter will grid tie to. I was always under

Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion

2011-07-19 Thread Michael Welch
Hi gang. If you have any comments or concerns about this email, please contact me off list. I asked Peter to request his responses off-list, since this is more of an education project aimed at the masses than a wrenching project. Keeping the list pertinent to pro installers is my number 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Hans Frederickson
Kent, I'm not a geezer yet, but thanks to my dad I do have a copy of the 1987 NEC. 690-5 (Ground Fault Detection and Interruption) was added in the 1990 NEC. There is no 690-5 or mention of ground fault detection/interruption in the 1987 NEC. In the 1990 NEC, section 690-5 is very small compared

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread David Brearley
Hans, John Wiles described the evolution of this standard for a Home Power article that we referenced later in a SolarPro on PV System Ground Faults: http://solarprofessional.com/article/?file=SP2_5_pg60_Mync ³As described by John Wiles, program manager for the Institute for the Energy and the

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Hans Frederickson
David, Thanks for the interesting history on GFPDs. My copy of the 1987 NEC does not have 690-5, and it's not missing any pages. Either my code book is an incomplete printing or perhaps John Wiles was referring to a 1987 proposal that didn't make it into the code until the 1990 NEC. Regards,

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
Thanks, David. I've been looking for a 1987 NEC because of this reference and others where John Wiles has referred to it. David Brearley wrote: Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC Hans, John Wiles described the evolution of this standard for a Home Power article that we referenced later in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
Thanks, Hans. The part about shorting the array was abandoned, I'm not sure but it may be have been removed for the 1993 code. It's item two on this list that I've been trying to backtrack to. It is pretty much the same as in the current code: "open the grounded conductor". It is also not

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread R Ray Walters
We had an early 90s system with a DCGFP(complete with 4/0 GEC:)). A ground fault on a DC load circuit caused the GFP to lift the ground, shut the array off, but the short was still being fed by the battery and wouldn't trip the DC breaker, since negative was disconnected from ground. I thought

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread David Brearley
Presumably the latter‹added as part of the cycle of revisions initiated in 1987. On 7/19/11 3:29 PM, Hans Frederickson h...@fredelectric.com wrote: David, Thanks for the interesting history on GFPDs. My copy of the 1987 NEC does not have 690-5, and it's not missing any pages. Either my code

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread boB Gudgel
On 7/19/2011 2:34 PM, David Brearley wrote: Presumably the latter---added as part of the cycle of revisions initiated in 1987. The array shorting requirement must have gone away near 1993 or 1994 as I designed an opening and shorting of the array style GFPD version in 1994 while at Trace

[RE-wrenches] Pulse PC 500

2011-07-19 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Anyone have the manual or spec sheet in an electronic format that they could send me, please? Thanks, marco provision_highres_solar_logo2 with C-26351 Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, 934-7462 facsimile

[RE-wrenches] SMA design tools

2011-07-19 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
I'm s bummed out that SMA has removed their handy and easy to use string sizing tool from their website and replaced it with a cumbersome monster of a design program. (Yes, at my age I do struggle with having to learn yet another bloomin' program.) Does anyone know if there's some magic