HI William,

I appreciate your time and input as to your thinking about this project.

However this system already exists and has been in operation for some time.  
Client has a offgrid farm with 45kva generator.  

The situation is that the main house also already runs off this generator, but 
the generator doesn’t run 24/7/365.  The other times of the year they run a 
honda 6500 at 120/240vac to power the house. The existing infrastructure of the 
farm is already set up for 120/208 3 phase and it wouldn’t be necessary or 
wanted to change all that for 7kw of inverters.

That all said, I’ll probably run the inverters at 120/240 setup, as the back up 
generator is 120/240.  And when they use the 3 phase generator its on 24 hrs a 
day.  Yes it will only use 1 inverter to battery charge, but given 24 hr charge 
time, it’ll keep up the batteries no problem.

Thanks to all,

Jay









> On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:31 AM, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> wrote:
> 
> Jay:
>  
> This idea sounds wrong on many levels.  Generators are designed to be loaded 
> evenly, with some allowance for normal deviations.  Having separate loads 
> that can vary independently is asking for regulation problems.
>  
> You did not state if the generator was wound Wye or Delta.  This makes a 
> difference. 
>  
> Delta wound generators that provide 120/240 have one winding center-tapped.  
> That winding can provide only 1/3 of the rating of the generator (there is 
> some research that says the de-rate is greater).   If this is the case, your 
> two inverters can each access only 1/6 of the generator capability.  Sure you 
> might be able to draw more than 1/6, for a while...
>  
> Have you checked to see if the generator can be field re-tapped to provide 
> 120 only?  Then you could provide a generator-fed distribution and put all of 
> your 120 loads on it, providing the full generator capability.
>  
> It has come to my attention recently that two Outback FXR (or FX, I am not 
> sure) inverters can be stacked on two legs of a three-phase input power 
> source.  I had thought this was not possible.  I know it works because I 
> accidently did this.  I believe the supply was Wye configured.  It was with a 
> mobile set up built by someone else.  The inverters should have been the 
> Mobile version, and maybe this is what made this possible.  You just can't 
> use an X240 on this setup.  Consider this option if you must unbalance the 
> generator.  Try to balance the loads and charging between the inverters and 
> avoid power-save settings (you can't power-save without an X240 anyway).
>  
> I have had many customers ask me to do something that my intuition told me 
> was a bad idea.  When I was younger I might comply, and learn to regret it.  
> Good luck and stay strong.
>  
> William Miller
>  
> -----Original Message-----
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> <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of jay
> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:39 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] magnum question
>  
> Hi All,
>  
> My question is can a single  Magnum remote run 2 inverters each as master for 
> 120v?
>  
>  
> I’ve got a client with a 3 phase generator, and I need two phases, but I 
> don’t need 240v.
>  
>  
> 1. I can’t change the generator
> 2. Two phases because I can’t load one phase that heavily.
>  
> I can do 2 Outback FXR’s each as a master,  but I’d need to have 2 Mate3S’s.
>  
> But I don’t know if magnum has that possiblity?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> jay
>  
> Peltz Power
>  
>  
>  
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