Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-24 Thread William Miller
rsday, October 22, 2015 6:27 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank On battery based systems I always install a Class T fuse as close to the battery bank as possible. 690.71(C) is a little vague in requiring a current limiting fuse only

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread Allan Sindelar
Dan, That's right about the unprotected DC + main. Trace used the inverter GJ, so turning off DC loads required turning off the DC to the inverter - which meant reprogramming it afterward. And it used a #10 tap pigtail. Stoopid. If I have several DC loads I have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread Tom Ruscitti
Thanks, everyone. I see I'm not the only one juggling competing concerns on the battery fuse issue. For the service call that motivated my query I think we'll leave it as is - the installation has short battery cables in conduit into an Outback system, and no easy way to mount a fuse external t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread jay
HI Dan, All the big three have the same wiring diagrams with a positive buss and then breakers going out from there. And yes there is no main disco for the DC branches. But if your point was that the fuse could/will blow and then you have the PV/wind connected to the inverter and could ove

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread Dan Fink
Esteemed Wrenches; This creeps me out too and sometimes causes lack of sleep. The Midnite Solar power panel install manual shows no OCPD on in DC + main from battery bank to power panel. Easy to wire the main DC breaker to control those conductors, but then you have a "self destruct" switch if syst

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread Mbalchowsky
It's ALWAYS good practice to install a current limiting fuse at the battery bank, if fact it's very poor practice not to. We're working with a lot of larger lithium ion phosphate manganese systems and I would not install them without it. As far as working on someone else's install, make your co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-23 Thread RE Ellison
At an absolute minimum a current limiting the fuse at the battery bank is required if not by the law by common sense In banks with multiple strings in the past I have fused each string I have seen banks in the past where a single battery failed and for lack of a better description the others gan

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-22 Thread Jerry Shafer
I agree, fuse it Jerry On Oct 22, 2015 3:26 PM, "Tom Ruscitti" wrote: > On battery based systems I always install a Class T fuse as close to the > battery bank as possible. 690.71(C) is a little vague in requiring a > current limiting fuse only where the available short-circuit current from > th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-22 Thread Allan Sindelar
Tom, Agree with Ray here. But more than that, if you consider a class T fuse good practice, include it. But do no more than offer it when you work on others' systems. The homeowner usually won't see the value in the same way that you do, it won't affect the system 's performance unless there's a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-22 Thread Ray Walters
I agree installing a fuse at the battery bank is a good idea. However actually doing it right is tough. Putting the class T fuse and holder in a battery enclosure with flooded cells is going to cause more trouble than it solves. I've seen class T fuses oozing green goo out the ends, and the

[RE-wrenches] Current limiting fuse at battery bank

2015-10-22 Thread Tom Ruscitti
On battery based systems I always install a Class T fuse as close to the battery bank as possible. 690.71(C) is a little vague in requiring a current limiting fuse only where the available short-circuit current from the battery bank exceeds the interrupting ratings of the inverter breaker. Inve