Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-07 Thread Dean T. Newberry
Hello Wrenches, We tested some Brand X T8 LED's two years ago. They've all burned out. We're now using Phillips "Enduraled" T8, 22W 120V lamps. I'm confident that they will respond to warranty issues when they arise. Regards Dean

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-06 Thread Jesse Dahl
I did notice one thing when I converted my shop to LED. One of my 4' flour fixtures was a plug in type so I used my kill-a-watt and plugged the fixture in, with the ballasts and T8s and recorded a usage of 48W. After removing the ballast and installing the LEDs (21W each) the kill-a-watt read

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-06 Thread penobscotsolar
I recently built a new home for myself, earth bermed and of course, solar powered (and soon to be solar heated). Every light source in the home is LED. I did a lot of homework, testing bulbs and different fixtures, and am very happy with all of what I decided on. Kitschler makes excellent,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
If you have never looked at LED panels, do find a sample to try. The 30cm x 30cm panels give a steady even light from a 1/4 thick panel. For under counters, dropped ceilings and work areas, they are just lovely. I expect to see a lot of creative uses for these in the near future.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-06 Thread Jesse Dahl
The brand of T8 LEDs I have in my shop is Neptune. When I purchased them them website had buy American compliant but they say made in China on them. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Chris Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com wrote: If you have never looked at LED panels, do find

[RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Mick Abraham
Hi, Knuckle-Busters~ It's lighting retrofit time and also time for me to review what I thought I knew about various lighting technologies. + Round one of the conversion involves well known RV brand T8 tubular fluorescent fixtures (3' long single tube). These have 24vDC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Mick, I ALWAYS go with AC lighting. The cost/watt of the extra power to operate AC lighting is minimal compared the the hassles you have, and will experience again, trying to go DC. If the customer needs lighting to be always available, go with a small dedicated inverter for the light circuit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread toddcory
here in mount shasta woo-woo land, there are loads of folks who hate fluorescent lighting (never mind that they never notice fixtures with cfl's in them). they are all smiley though about leds (go figure). my experience with leds is the lumens/watt is still no greater than a good cfl/hid

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Jesse Dahl
I have the T8 LEDs in my house and garage, I've had them running for a year or so, I'm not home to check the brand, but I really like them for the shop, especially come winter. I'm by no means a lighting retrofit guy, so maybe I just bought into a tech to soon, but they seem to work good for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Allan Sindelar
You know, what baffles me - and may be the reason for the generally-accepted view that LEDs have really high efficiency - is why LED Christmas lights use so little energy. I have a couple of strings over our front porch that we never turn off, day or night, at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Dan Fink
The fixture - and putting the correct lamp into it - is more important as efficiency IMO. Some lamps burn out very early in the wrong fixture. My recent article in the Huffington Post sums up my view: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-r-fink/energy-efficient-lighting_b_1961945.html That said, I'm

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hey Dan, Great point. You just reminded me of the PV solar powered billboard lights I installed about 2 years ago. They are 120 Vac, 50 watt LED floods. So far they survived two Yuma, AZ summers with temperatures above 115°. During my studies, I learned that heat dissipation by the fixture was

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Chris Mason
I don't know anything about RV systems but as to LED lighting in general, we recently sold and installed 130 LED fixtures in a large villa to replace MR16 lamps, saving the client over 6KW of load. The light output is better than the MR16, there is no heat, and they were very cost effective

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Steve McCarney
Hi In Tunisia there is a net zero energy retrofit project in 4 health facilities. The exisitng lights were mostly ceiling mounted 34 W Flourescent tubes and 20 W tubes. We replaced them with 20 W and 10 W LED tubes. The LED tubes are more like task lighting that directs the light onlyt downward,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread William Dorsett
the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012? Hi, Knuckle-Busters~ It's lighting retrofit time and also time for me to review what I thought I knew about various lighting technologies. + Round one of the conversion involves well known RV brand T8 tubular fluorescent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fix the Fluorescents: What about LED tubes for late 2012?

2012-12-05 Thread Ray Walters
I have several LED lights, mostly AC, and I'm a big fan. The light quality approaches that of halogens, and the watts are noticeably lower than CFLs. I have spot lights, floods, and rope lights that I forget to turn off because I can. LEDs have come along way in the past year. I have a hand