Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again

2014-04-16 Thread William Korthof
Over the years (13 so far) I've installed probably 50-100 systems non-flashed on comp shingle, and about ten times that number flashed. The early ones were mostly non-flashed, the later ones nearly all flashed. The switch was around 2005, as I recall. The presence or lack of flashing has had

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again

2014-04-16 Thread Ray Walters
We use a stainless fender washer between the lag and L foot both to prevent a galvanic reaction between the aluminum and zinc plating, and to seal over the slot in the L foot. It also increases the strength to prevent the lag from tearing through the L foot in a heavy wind load. When we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-14 Thread Troy Harvey
Glenn, I understand where you are coming from, However My concern is that flashings could be worse. Unless the flashing design supports sealant + flashing, it will most likely be worse. I've never seen a L-foot leak, but I've seem many flashings that rely on gravity leak. An L-foot sealed

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-14 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Glenn; How do you and the roofers deal with Propanel steel roofs? That's hundreds of penetrations for the screws, with no flashings, and they depend on just a little rubber gasket. Or how about the lead head nails on a corrugated metal roof? Roofers

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-13 Thread Glenn Burt
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Troy Harvey Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:20 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?) 1. I'm interest in a poll of installers who are using flashings vs sealant. Now that the flashing

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
Flashing only On Apr 11, 2014 9:20 AM, Troy Harvey tahar...@heliocentric.org wrote: 1. I'm interest in a poll of installers who are using flashings vs sealant. Now that the flashing market has evolved, what are you using today? When did you switch to flashings (if you did). And why not, if you

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-12 Thread Solar Energy Solutions
We are the McDonalds of roof penetrations. During the last 30 years we have literally made pincushions of the roof we have worked on. After millions of unflashed penetrations we have only had one leak. Observing hundreds of Carter era systems we have never seen a mounting foot leak. Like

[RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Troy Harvey
1. I'm interest in a poll of installers who are using flashings vs sealant. Now that the flashing market has evolved, what are you using today? When did you switch to flashings (if you did). And why not, if you still prefer sealant. 2. Is there a any code defense for sealant systems ? (L-foot

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread August Goers
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Troy Harvey *Sent:* Friday, April 11, 2014 12:20 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?) 1. I'm interest in a poll of installers who

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Will White
-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:44 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?) Hi Troy, There has been an ongoing debate on the RE-Wrenches list on this issue for years now. I've personally serviced

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Ray Walters
Of *August Goers *Sent:* Friday, April 11, 2014 3:44 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?) Hi Troy, There has been an ongoing debate on the RE-Wrenches list on this issue for years now. I've personally serviced many old L-feet

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Benn Kilburn
I would have to definitely lean towards using flashings as a default and have been doing so now for several years. Last project i wanted to use flashings on and couldn't was in 2010. I couldn't because it was a 10-13 deg slope with asphalt shingles that were really good quality and made for low

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Bill Loesch
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?) Hi Troy, There has been an ongoing debate on the RE-Wrenches list on this issue for years now. I've personally serviced many old L-feet systems that are fine and some that are leaking. The leaks normally