Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-24 Thread Bill Loesch
benefit of refreshing your memory when they call again a couple (or more) years later. Bill Loesch - Original Message - From: mac Lewis To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:43 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Liability Hey wrenches, Wanted to see what everyone does

[RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread mac Lewis
Hey wrenches, Wanted to see what everyone does in a case like I just encountered. I got a call from a tenant for an off-grid system installed by the landlord (supposedly an electrician). I went up there to look at the site and it was a mess. System lacked OCPDs, there were gouges in the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Since the invention of the lawyer and insurance agent, there has alway been liability. Your hourly. Barge includes money that goes to both of them. You should carry $1M policy and have working relationship with an attorney (that is. It a family member). As a practical matter, we complete a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Remind me to learn how to type on the iPhone. Edit: hourly charge includes insurance and lawyers Edit: no family member lawyers. Sorry. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-919-4493

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jeff Yago
I took some heat several years ago when this same thread went around the first time and I said we refuse to work on any system we did not sell and install. Although there have been a few times when I made an exception to this rule (like crying, pleading, and begging from a homeowner that clearly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Joel Davidson
-wrenches Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 8:43 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Liability Hey wrenches, Wanted to see what everyone does in a case like I just encountered. I got a call from a tenant for an off-grid system installed by the landlord (supposedly an electrician). I went up

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Allan Sindelar
Mac, 1. Write notes on your concerns on your daily service record for the site visit. Express strong concern. 2. Write a cautionary note on the invoice to the landlord. 3. Decide if you'd to tackle a system rebuild, or if you don't want to get near it. 4. If you

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jason Szumlanski
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of penobscotso...@midmaine.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability We don't work on systems that do not conform to code unless the client agrees

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Joel and Allan's comments; I just would add that I too have done many repairs, and rewires and found them to be decent customers. I also have never been sued, by using Joel's method of avoiding problem clients. Usually the rewire turns into a system upgrade ( I always do a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Richard L Ratico
Mac, You have already received great advice, different strokes for different folks. Three things I would add: Accepting an offgrid customer is a bit like getting married. It is a long term commitment. You want it to be a happy one. What does that mean to you? In my experience it is prudent to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread William Miller
Mac: I make a decent living fixing other installer's work. Someone's got to do it or the bad systems will never get fixed. Who does that benefit? I of course need assurance from the customer that I can fix all safety issues before I start. I also like to keep one or two pro-bono