Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-23 Thread Jason Szumlanski
That is a potential solution, but if SMA is recommending load shedding contactors, shouldn't they supply a device or kit to implement this? Or at least specify products or at a bare minimum provide better documentation on how and why to implement it. I still don't understand why it's recommended w

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-22 Thread drake . chamberlin
Use series resistors around the coil. --- On 2021-01-21 13:59, Jason Szumlanski wrote: I just learned from the manufacturer that the mercury displacement relay's coil is rated for 43.2 to 52.80V. Obviously, the battery voltage can exceed 52.8 pretty significantly. Does the Sunny Island regulat

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
No, I would not use a Sol-Ark unless it was redundant, as in two paralleled for AC output. I agree with you. That's the other advantage of AC Coupling in a dual Sol-Ark configuration. If done right the "extra" AC coupled PV can be usable in the event of a single inverter failure (to an extent). Bu

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Hi Jason, The downside of an all-in one, that may be acceptable for grid, is in a failure an all-in-one becomes unusable unless there is a spare. Even with one it is often a bigger job to deal with. This was my feedback to Schneider when they were looking into this 5 years back. I know they mad

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
It's already built - 6 years old - I didn't do it. The new property owner just purchased a very expensive battery bank and wants to protect it, understandably, because she had problems with her generator not starting as expected when not at the property. It was suggested by the original installer t

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Tump
IF this system has yet to be built I would STRONGLY suggest that AC coupling is NOT considered. IF it is them i would consider HV CC DC coupling. T > On Jan 21, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Jason Szumlanski > wrote: > > Hi Mac, > > Yes, I considered using a pilot relay - it makes sense to run it on 120V

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Hi Mac, Yes, I considered using a pilot relay - it makes sense to run it on 120V because relays are readily available. I had the exact same concern - more to fail. In this scenario, the inverter/battery room is remote from the house so there is only one load I can switch easily with a contactor,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Jason, The only reason to load shed, without using the internal preservation mode is if you have certain loads you'd like to keep on longer than other loads that you shed. The various preservation modes can be complex, especially if you are AC coupled, so you really have to think through your

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I just learned from the manufacturer that the mercury displacement relay's coil is rated for 43.2 to 52.80V. Obviously, the battery voltage can exceed 52.8 pretty significantly. Does the Sunny Island regulate the output voltage on this relay to 48V or is the actual battery voltage passed through on

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-20 Thread drake . chamberlin
The mercury displacement relays are very robust. They do have a lead warning. --- On 2021-01-19 20:48, Mac Lewis wrote: Hi Jason, I have done this with mercury displacement relays: https://www.mdius.com/mercury-relays/two-pole-relays-contactors/two-pole-100-amp They do have a 100A 2P 48

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-19 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Jason, I have done this with mercury displacement relays: https://www.mdius.com/mercury-relays/two-pole-relays-contactors/two-pole-100-amp They do have a 100A 2P 48V coil relay. They seem to work perfectly. Good luck On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:51 PM Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesig

[RE-wrenches] SMA Load Shedding Contactor 100A, 2P

2021-01-19 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Does anyone know where I can get a load shedding contactor described in SMA documentation for use with a multi-function relay in a Sunny Island? Thanks, Jason Szumlanski ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches