Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-10 Thread Jason Szumlanski
There is one more thing to consider that just hit me while looking at a Wago. I don't think the insulation of a #10 PV wire is going to fit into the 221-6XX connector. I need to check on that. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:06 PM Chris Schaefer wrote: > Kudos to Dan Fink. Nice job. Just another

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-10 Thread Chris Schaefer
Kudos to Dan Fink. Nice job. Just another reason to send a donation to Michael Welch. Christopher On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 3:29 PM Jason Szumlanski < ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote: > I agree and I just got written confirmation from Wago that said (regarding > the 221-4XX series): > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-10 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I agree and I just got written confirmation from Wago that said (regarding the 221-4XX series): WAGO's U.L. Recognition for Series 221 does Not differentiate between AC or DC Just Not to exceed 20A 600V Building Wire or 1000V Luminaires or Signs No Special designation is required. On Mon, May

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-10 Thread Ray
Thanks Dan, that has also been my understanding of all listed equipment.  Certain switches etc will say on them "AC only", or give different DC ratings.  Otherwise the voltage listing is AC/DC. Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 5/10/21 2:55 PM, Dan Fink wrote: Esteemed Wrenches; I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-10 Thread Dan Fink
Esteemed Wrenches; I spoke with engineers at both Wago and 3M today regarding the AC vs. DC ratings of Wago 221 and other wire splicing products. Both engineers stated that standard UL486C (Splicing Wire Connectors) applies to *both* AC and DC voltages unless the product is specifically listed for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-09 Thread Glenn Burt
Fink Sent: Friday, May 07, 2021 7:01 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600V, 30A, Use Group C (industrial) . I have a copy of UL486C, and voltage is just specified for dielectric testing

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-09 Thread Glenn Burt
To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) In another thread these connectors were discussed recently. There was a question regarding the suitability for DC circuits. I don't think we came up with any answers or consensus on that. I see the connectors are UL listed

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-09 Thread Glenn Burt
: Friday, May 07, 2021 8:48 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) Friends: Call me old fashioned, but I cannot get any confidence on the Wago connector. It seems somewhat akin to the back-wire mechanism on a 15A receptacle. This connection relies

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-09 Thread Glenn Burt
@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) This whole high voltage connection discussion got me searching, and I found Phoenix Contact makes a DIN rail mount terminal block that is 1000 v rated. That would seem to make way more sense than using MC 4 connects

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-08 Thread Ray
enches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Dan Fink *Sent:* Friday, May 7, 2021 4:01 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Jerry Shafer
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
ON BEHALF OF Dan Fink SENT: Friday, May 7, 2021 4:01 PM TO: RE-wrenches SUBJECT: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600V, 30A, Use Group C (industrial) . I have a copy of UL486C, and voltage is just specified for dielectr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread William Miller
:* Friday, May 7, 2021 4:01 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series) Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600V, 30A, Use Group C (industrial) . I have a copy of UL486C, and voltage is just specified for dielectric testing. That standard

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Dan Fink
Jason; From the Wago 221 data sheet, it's listed to UL 486C, 600V, 30A, Use Group C (industrial) . I have a copy of UL486C, and voltage is just specified for dielectric testing. That standard specifies tests with AC, because it is easier (and cheaper) to generate and ramp up compared to DC, and DC

[RE-wrenches] Wago Connectors (221 series)

2021-05-07 Thread Jason Szumlanski
In another thread these connectors were discussed recently. There was a question regarding the suitability for DC circuits. I don't think we came up with any answers or consensus on that. I see the connectors are UL listed to the 486C standard. I can't determine whether that is applicable to AC