Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
I had the same experience as Jay as far as being marketed three idea that managed lithium batteries can jane several year age differences and still play well together, only to be told, after telling my clients the same, that most manufacturers don't recommend more than a year age differential

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
If the batteries have a 10-year life, I don't think it would make much difference. LA batteries show an increase in internal resistance after a few recharges. Typically, the BMS in a Li battery will ensure at top balance all cells balance, If the batteries are being properly recharged. On Tue,

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Peter Giroux via RE-wrenches
Cc: jay Subject: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries HI All Speaking of batteries I wonder what you all make of this. I was reading the Fortress battery manual and it says they don’t recommend adding new lithium batteries to older lithium batteries if the age is over 1 year difference

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches
Even with LFP, mixing different-age batteries is still not the best idea. Even if using closed-loop communication, they can get out of balance pretty quickly, which will lead to all kinds of BMS issues. One of the reasons I suggest using a main positive and negative bus with breakers: You can

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
In a battery backup mostly float state with low cycle count, I’d add to a bank several years later. It’s really hard to say “several” since most LiFePO4 batteries haven’t been alive for that long. I’ve personally added 8 Pytes E-Box to 8 eFlex with no issue. The Schneider Insight even

Re: [RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
It depends on how the BMS shares with the new BMS. A state of life measurement, the charge algorithm, and ? has to account for this for them to charge and discharge well together. Pretty safe to say one year for many makes of battery. Kind of like bussbar use in large systems, is a way to

[RE-wrenches] speaking of batteries

2024-04-23 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
HI All Speaking of batteries I wonder what you all make of this. I was reading the Fortress battery manual and it says they don’t recommend adding new lithium batteries to older lithium batteries if the age is over 1 year difference. Thoughts? thanks jay