Re: [RE-wrenches] Metal roofs

2011-11-23 Thread Rich Nicol
Hi Ian I second Daryl's suggestion of Ecofasten products. They have high quality solutions and are great at offering support to work through challenging installs. Thanks Rich -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org

[RE-wrenches] Peerless Ranges for Off-Grid Homes

2011-11-23 Thread frenergy
We still have ours (of about 15 years) and other than the clock lighting, it's working like a champ. It does get used less these days since we installed a ceramic (electric) cooktop also (we're offgrid) and have found creative ways to use the electric more and more. Thanks for the

[RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread mac Lewis
Hey wrenches, Wanted to see what everyone does in a case like I just encountered. I got a call from a tenant for an off-grid system installed by the landlord (supposedly an electrician). I went up there to look at the site and it was a mess. System lacked OCPDs, there were gouges in the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Since the invention of the lawyer and insurance agent, there has alway been liability. Your hourly. Barge includes money that goes to both of them. You should carry $1M policy and have working relationship with an attorney (that is. It a family member). As a practical matter, we complete a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Remind me to learn how to type on the iPhone. Edit: hourly charge includes insurance and lawyers Edit: no family member lawyers. Sorry. Thank you, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer ® President CEO Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. Office: 512-919-4493

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jeff Yago
I took some heat several years ago when this same thread went around the first time and I said we refuse to work on any system we did not sell and install. Although there have been a few times when I made an exception to this rule (like crying, pleading, and begging from a homeowner that clearly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello Mac, I can understand not wanting to get involved in some people's problems, but electricians, plumbers and other tradespeople make a good living fixing people's problems. I have examined, tested and repaired PV systems for over 25 years. Sometimes I work with subcontractors or partner

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Allan Sindelar
Mac, 1. Write notes on your concerns on your daily service record for the site visit. Express strong concern. 2. Write a cautionary note on the invoice to the landlord. 3. Decide if you'd to tackle a system rebuild, or if you don't want to get near it. 4. If you

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I take that to the next level and insist that we bring the system up to current code and our current workmanship standards, which often exceed minimum code substantially. In some cases this is impossible, at least within practical cost limits. It's common to find non-listed or substandard

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Joel and Allan's comments; I just would add that I too have done many repairs, and rewires and found them to be decent customers. I also have never been sued, by using Joel's method of avoiding problem clients. Usually the rewire turns into a system upgrade ( I always do a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread Richard L Ratico
Mac, You have already received great advice, different strokes for different folks. Three things I would add: Accepting an offgrid customer is a bit like getting married. It is a long term commitment. You want it to be a happy one. What does that mean to you? In my experience it is prudent to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Liability

2011-11-23 Thread William Miller
Mac: I make a decent living fixing other installer's work. Someone's got to do it or the bad systems will never get fixed. Who does that benefit? I of course need assurance from the customer that I can fix all safety issues before I start. I also like to keep one or two pro-bono

[RE-wrenches] AUTO: Herrera, Sandra is out of the office. (returning 12/01/2011)

2011-11-23 Thread Sandra . Herrera
I am out of the office until 12/01/2011. In observance of the US Thanksgiving Holiday I will be out of the office until Monday November 28th. I will have limited access to email and phone from Monday the 28th to Wednesday 30th due to business travel, but will return to my regular work schedule