Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
Historically everyone that has manufactured shingle or tile solar modules have failed, Dow Corning as a recent failure, Open Energy is another. So many connections and small wattage modules. 3 years and many modules are failing. Why would anyone go back 25 years and use 60 to 90 modules just to get 6 to 7 kW. This is the wrong direction to go but few listen untill its too late and the company is gone. But hey what do l know I've only done this for nearly 40 years. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:44 PM Dana Orzel wrote: > Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new > construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where I > think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as > it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell > it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. > > > > I am wondering what other folks experience has been. > > > > > > > > Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. > > *C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com > * > > Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 > > NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com > > *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" * > > *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches *On > Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere > > > > Hello Wrenches, > > > > Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their "Tesla > Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me know > and I will send my contact info. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nick Welch > > NC Electrical License #34779 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
Aloha all, I’m going to pipe up here regarding Tesla. I’ve been in the solar field since 1978, am a supervising electrician as well as the RME with the electrical contracting license. My company has been a Tesla certified installer since 2018 here in Hawaii and I’ve had Powerwalls on my home over the past several years and was the first in my company to do so as I wanted to walk our talk before selling and installing them. While they had some issues early on with the roll-out of the Powerwall 2, I have to say that these past years I’ve been quite pleased and impressed with the product and performance and overall back-up from Tesla tech support. (And no, I’m not a shill for the company or anyone else for that matter.) In fact, the mothership lets us know pre-emptively if a Powerwall is not meeting their operating specs and they’re quick with the RMAs. And I’m looking forward to the new Powerwall+ which is now shipping. The PW+ is the combination of the Powerwall 13.5 kWh and a Tesla-designed and branded 7.6 kW inverter with, along with their Gateway, allows for an integrated design with all the important components of a PV system to be Tesla. Which I expect to be an improvement over pairing Powerwall with SolarEdge, Enphase or SMA. As well, we can now offer a 25-year wraparound warranty on Tesla mods, Tesla inverter and Powerwall. Where else are you going to find a 25-year warranty on a battery? Finally, having recently compared pricing with LiFePo battery platforms of similar capacities, Powerwall and Powerwall+ pricing is aggressive. marco From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Clearwater Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:21 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere Yea Tesla blew it big time with their approach with distributors and installers. Many of us reached out to them early on only to be met with silence and then to find out that some fly-by-night or new start-up received a territory covering big areas including several experienced installers that were ignored. And then the stories starting rolling in of shoddy installs - bad service - long waits - no supply. What they could have had if they just partnered with the existing solar industry instead of the arrogant attitude they knew better . . . Then it became clear perhaps we were better off! Their early embrace of Li-NMC turned out to be not a great option with LFPs coming along - and although we were hopeful they might get solar shingles right - they never overcame the inherent challenges (all those plugs! and no cooling!) - we saw it in the 2000s with (what was it "American Solar Shingles" or some such name). I love that Elon stepped up the game for folks to embrace EVs and Solar - but the execution - super dissapointing and maybe even damaging in the long run for solar. Here's kudos to all high integrity solar providers out there that have served the industry for years! We commend you intent Elon - but next time you might ask those that have been doing it for years to partner with you! best, Jeff ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
[Where I think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. I am wondering what other folks experience has been. Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. *C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com* Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com <http://www.greatsolarworks.com> _"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" ___ *P*Please consider the environment before printing this email. *From:* RE-wrenches *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM *To:* RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere Hello Wrenches, Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me know and I will send my contact info. Thanks in advance, Nick Welch NC Electrical License #34779 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
This is vapourware and the customers fall for it everytime. I had someone here in Anguilla insist they wanted Tesla solar tiles or nothing. they would not believe me it was a terrible idea, especially in a hurricane area, and tesla was not going to sell it to her. Ended up doing nothing. Tesla kills solar deals. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 4:52 PM Kirk Herander wrote: > That's the problem. They don't want to talk to you, unless maybe you're > interested in buying solar shingles and storage as a package deal. I've > applied for certification several times over the last 2 yrs, and no > response. And present dealers tell me their dealer network is falling > apart. No support whatsoever. > > Old Elon should concentrate more on his terrestrial interests instead of > spaceman ambitions. > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:44 PM Dana Orzel wrote: > >> Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new >> construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where I >> think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as >> it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell >> it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. >> >> >> >> I am wondering what other folks experience has been. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. >> >> *C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com >> * >> >> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 >> >> NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com >> >> *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" * >> >> *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* RE-wrenches *On >> Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM >> *To:* RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere >> >> >> >> Hello Wrenches, >> >> >> >> Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their >> "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me >> know and I will send my contact info. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Nick Welch >> >> NC Electrical License #34779 >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> > > -- > > *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * > > *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* > > *Celebrating our 31st Anniversary 1991-2022!!* > > *www.vermont.solar* > <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D=0> > > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > > 802.863.1202 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Chris Mason Solar systems designer Generac Generators Industrial technician Comet Systems Ltd DBA Comet Solar Anguilla Cell 264.235.5670 WhatsApp 264.235.5670 Skype: netconcepts www.cometsolar.com <http://www.cometenergysystems.com/> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
Gotta say the same thing here in NY. I've applied and sent credentials 3x now with little to no response over the last 2 years. The local Tesla car dealer wants us onboard as they are getting a lot of complaints from their car clients when it comes to their charger installation's crew. I'm told they are just local electricians. After all this I gotta tell ya I'm not exactly excited to get on board if we don't have the support. Afterall haven't we already lived through this with our current inverter factory support teams to some extent? Christopher On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:52 PM Kirk Herander wrote: > That's the problem. They don't want to talk to you, unless maybe you're > interested in buying solar shingles and storage as a package deal. I've > applied for certification several times over the last 2 yrs, and no > response. And present dealers tell me their dealer network is falling > apart. No support whatsoever. > > Old Elon should concentrate more on his terrestrial interests instead of > spaceman ambitions. > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:44 PM Dana Orzel wrote: > >> Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new >> construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where I >> think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as >> it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell >> it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. >> >> >> >> I am wondering what other folks experience has been. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. >> >> *C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com >> * >> >> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 >> >> NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com >> >> *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" * >> >> *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* RE-wrenches *On >> Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM >> *To:* RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere >> >> >> >> Hello Wrenches, >> >> >> >> Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their >> "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me >> know and I will send my contact info. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> >> >> Nick Welch >> >> NC Electrical License #34779 >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> > > -- > > *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * > > *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* > > *Celebrating our 31st Anniversary 1991-2022!!* > > *www.vermont.solar* > <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D=0> > > dba Vermont Solar Engineering > > 802.863.1202 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.member
Re: [RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
That's the problem. They don't want to talk to you, unless maybe you're interested in buying solar shingles and storage as a package deal. I've applied for certification several times over the last 2 yrs, and no response. And present dealers tell me their dealer network is falling apart. No support whatsoever. Old Elon should concentrate more on his terrestrial interests instead of spaceman ambitions. On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:44 PM Dana Orzel wrote: > Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new > construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where I > think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as > it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell > it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. > > > > I am wondering what other folks experience has been. > > > > > > > > Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. > > *C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com > * > > Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 > > NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com > > *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" * > > *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches *On > Behalf Of *Nicholas Welch > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM > *To:* RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere > > > > Hello Wrenches, > > > > Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their "Tesla > Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me know > and I will send my contact info. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nick Welch > > NC Electrical License #34779 > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- *Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar * *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC* *Celebrating our 31st Anniversary 1991-2022!!* *www.vermont.solar* <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D=0> dba Vermont Solar Engineering 802.863.1202 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] ] Tesla Anywhere
Very good! I was just about to ask the same question. I have 1 new construction request for a “Tesla” system. Between Snow country [Where I think the roof tile is not appropriate & from what I hear not available as it is still in prototype testing & costing twice what Tesla wants to sell it for] & the fact that I cannot get anyone at Tesla to call me back. I am wondering what other folks experience has been. Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 NABCEP # 051112-136 www.greatsolarworks.com <http://www.greatsolarworks.com> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Nicholas Welch Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:01 PM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere Hello Wrenches, Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me know and I will send my contact info. Thanks in advance, Nick Welch NC Electrical License #34779 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Tesla Anywhere
Hello Wrenches, Has anyone here taken the plunge in partnering with Tesla for their "Tesla Anywhere" program? If so, I'd love to chat off forum. Please let me know and I will send my contact info. Thanks in advance, Nick Welch NC Electrical License #34779 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
