Re: [RE-wrenches] Galvanic compatibility of commonly used solar materials

2009-02-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
hi 
i have seen fast corrosion of copper on galvanized, it also seems as if once 
the galvanized is gone the steel underneath rusts very fast.  I have had good 
stability of galvanized on aluminum (or anodized aluminum.  


--- On Mon, 1/26/09, August Goers aug...@luminalt.com wrote:

 From: August Goers aug...@luminalt.com
 Subject: [RE-wrenches] Galvanic compatibility of commonly used solar materials
 To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
 Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 6:00 PM
 Hi Wrenches,
 
 I'm wondering what types of experiences you folks have
 with galvanic
 corrosion. As we all know, racking and ground systems
 commonly use copper,
 aluminum, steel, etc. which may or may not be compatible
 with each other.
 There's the theory:
 http://www.engineersedge.com/galvanic_capatability.htm
 and then there's real life experience.
 
 I have first hand experience with aluminum lay in lugs used
 to bond modules
 corroding and turning to powder. We all know to use tin
 coated copper lugs
 for module and racking grounding. However, I see bare
 copper ground wires
 run over all sorts of different metals and I wonder what
 issues might pop up
 in the long haul. 
 
 How well does bare copper hold up when it is touching
 anodized aluminum?
 What about copper and hot dipped strut? How do you run bare
 ground wire when
 you're connecting multiple arrays separated from each
 other? Has anyone seen
 issues arising between steel and aluminum racking parts?
 
 I'm looking forward to seeing what types of field
 experiences you have seen.
 
 Best,
 
 August
 
 
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Galvanic compatibility of commonly used solar materials

2009-02-01 Thread Jeff Yago
I recently inspected a large ground mount off-grid system about 3 years old 
that was installed by others. I would have used a #6 bare copper ground wire 
due to being exposed almost 100 feet of array length and connected to several 
ground rods with no conduit, but the installer had used #10 which still barely 
met code, but sure was flimsy. Anyway, this small ground wire was sagging down 
in many places along the array length due to about a quarter of the galvanized 
steel self-tapping screws holding the copper against the aluminum had totally 
dissolved. 

We always use the cadmium plated copper grounding blocks and stainless steel 
screws to attach the #6 copper ground wire, and I can see now just how fast the 
galvanic action can dissolve metal when you don't use stainless steel hardware.

Jeff Yago

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[RE-wrenches] Galvanic compatibility of commonly used solar materials

2009-01-26 Thread August Goers
Hi Wrenches,

I'm wondering what types of experiences you folks have with galvanic
corrosion. As we all know, racking and ground systems commonly use copper,
aluminum, steel, etc. which may or may not be compatible with each other.
There's the theory: http://www.engineersedge.com/galvanic_capatability.htm
and then there's real life experience.

I have first hand experience with aluminum lay in lugs used to bond modules
corroding and turning to powder. We all know to use tin coated copper lugs
for module and racking grounding. However, I see bare copper ground wires
run over all sorts of different metals and I wonder what issues might pop up
in the long haul. 

How well does bare copper hold up when it is touching anodized aluminum?
What about copper and hot dipped strut? How do you run bare ground wire when
you're connecting multiple arrays separated from each other? Has anyone seen
issues arising between steel and aluminum racking parts?

I'm looking forward to seeing what types of field experiences you have seen.

Best,

August



August Goers


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