Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Mac Lewis
Generac has a pretty cool device that really needs to get emulated in the solar industry called the smart management module. It's a standalone smart relay that can be programmed via dip switches to do just this, bring devices on line in stages and drop them if the generator is getting overloaded.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Chris Schaefer
Jason, Given all of the equipment you're looking at I'd consider using a small shoe box sized PLC. Relays and timers are good but the PLC will give you a lot more flexibility in a very small package and will be able to sense when the ATS switch transfers. I enjoy using the ASCO unit as it offers

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Which models do you like from ASCO Christopher? Something like this below? https://www.ascopower.com/us/en/product-range-presentation/66110-asco-series-185-power-transfer-switch/ [1] Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [2] e-mail

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
Outback inverters can do that, start and stop the genny, start up if loads are above a programmed setting. I have used Lutron for a similar application that turned one AC on at a time. You can use the inverter to turn off load(s) if they is/are to high, it's all programable Jerry On Wed, Sep 11,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Chris Mason
The Generac SMM senses the generator, probably won't work for solar. It's easy to do a contactor with time delay relay, those devices are available off the shelf. As long as power goes off then back on, the time delay unit will back off for the set time. You can probably find a device that is an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I definitely understand that I can't prevent it 100%, but I can surely mitigate the likelihood. It's highly unlikely that all 10 refrigerators will all start simultaneously based on temperature with the well pump and two air conditioners except when power is first applied. Moreso than the ATS

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Jason, any chance of one of the "help" being made knowledgeable to manage this? In a way this is what I do for my offgrid clients. If they won't, I walk away because it is just to complicated at this stage in RE. Hoping it will change! I get them up to speed on managing loads and understanding

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for staged startup of appliances

2019-09-12 Thread Jay
We don’t know how you have the AC distribution set up. If you have a main that then distributes to sub panels, how about relays on delay timers that go to each sub. 3-5 seconds would be more than enough. Or mechanical discos with simple instructions of delay between each. But yea people have

[RE-wrenches] Communications using the Conext Gateway

2019-09-12 Thread Howie Michaelson
I have a net metered battery backup Dual stack XW Pro with a Conext Gateway. The Gateway is communicating on the Xanbus netwark and I'm able to read and write to the inverters through the gateway as long as I'm connected to it through the local area network. I was also able to register the Gateway

Re: [RE-wrenches] Communications using the Conext Gateway

2019-09-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
Howie Was the box set up as DHCP or static IP, if it was static there might be something that had that same IP address. Also if its static the IP may not be close enough to find a connection, by close l mean IP range. If it has a wireless connection it might be stuck on another network. Some