The whole of the Fergie article that stirred up the ancient history about Ericsson maybe becoming our next manager.
Tanya >From The Times The Boss by Robert Crampton This charming man: Yes, we are talking about Sir Alex Ferguson. He may be the most aggressive, volatile manager in the business, with a reputation for putting the boot in, but Manchester United's boss is not all tough guy. Robert Crampton met him at home - and there wasn't a temper tantrum in sight When Jason Ferguson was driving me to his parents' home in the Cheshire town of Wilmslow, I kept expecting us to arrive at a Really Big House, something at the end of a very long drive, perhaps, quite possibly with iron gates. When we drove on to a newish private estate - nice houses, for sure, but nothing out of the ordinary - I thought we'd go through it. Then, when we turned into the drive of one of these houses, a short drive, I thought maybe Jason was turning round for some reason. But then I saw that the house (mock-Tudor, leaded lights, lantern-style illumination by the door) had a name plate up which read "Fairfields". Fairfields was the name of the shipyard in the Glasgow district of Govan where Alex Ferguson Snr worked when his first son was born in 1941. And at the door, his head visible above a big black Mercedes, was that son, also called Alex, or rather, since the summer of 1999, Sir Alex. He looked to be in a good mood. But then this was a couple of weeks before his team's FA Cup defeat by Arsenal last Saturday, when a football boot kicked in anger by Ferguson across the dressing room reportedly struck David Beckham in the face. As you would imagine, Sir Alex's handshake was, on the spectrum, at the firmest end of firm. In we all went, into a hall. Off the hall to the left was what I later discovered was a snooker room, complete with a tartan carpet and small busts of John Wayne, Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy. In another room Cathy Ferguson, Lady Ferguson in fact, was watching something involving Martin Kemp on UK Gold on a very big telly. She was feeding a bottle of milk to Grace Ferguson, her three-month-old granddaughter. To the right of the hall was a kitchen and behind that, a formal sitting room, neat as a pin, the stripes and swirls left by a recent vacuuming still visible on the thick carpet. Sir Alex showed me in there and I stood looking at the back garden for a while. Again, I was surprised that the garden didn't go on into the far distance. It stopped, normal-sized, and then the neighbours' gardens began. There were two footballs, a kids' swing and a dusting of snow on the lawn. Sir Alex joined me at the window. He said they'd lived here for 16 years, since shortly after he took the job. Moving down from Aberdeen, he and Cathy had been shocked at the prices in Cheshire. Eventually, the club loaned them some money and they'd had this house built on a new plot. They've never thought much about moving, nor do they own any other property. Recently, however, the husband, now 61, had tentatively suggested they might move to a flat in Alderley Edge… but the wife wouldn't hear of it. Instead, they'd lived in a hotel for three months while Fairfields was extensively refurbished. Later, I asked him who was the boss of the house. "You're joking, aren't you?" he said. "You want to try her out? I have to lose my temper to get anywhere here." At the end of the afternoon, on my way back to the station, the taxi driver, Stan, said that once, in the bad days before Ferguson started winning everything (for three and a half years, nothing, then, since 1990: seven Premierships; four FA Cups; one European Cup Winners' Cup and, in 1999, most importantly, one Champions' League), United had lost the local derby 5-1 to Manchester City. When the manager got home, furious, dispirited, there was his wife at the door, chanting "Cit-y! Cit-y!" "She keeps him down-to-earth," said Stan. Ferguson and I moved away from the window and sat down. Jason Ferguson brought tea. I saw that Jason's father was wearing slippers, proper dad slippers in blue velour. Jason, who at 31, after a spell in television, now acts as his father's agent, sat down too. I realised he was going to stay. One or two people, and one or two books, Michael Crick's biography in particular, had warned me about Jason. But he was fine, no problem. More than fine, actually. I liked him. One or two people had warned me about Jason's father too, though the warnings weren't really necessary. I've seen Alex Ferguson on the television often enough, we all have. He's usually standing next to his dugout and often he seems to be very angry indeed. There he was again last Saturday, fuming. He can be rude too, I was told. Contemptuous. Withering. Aggressive, and not just in the dressing room: he's had reporters up against the wall before now, spitting venom, his face mottled with fury. Not so long ago, a reporter questioned the worth of his £28-million signing, Juan Sebastian Veron. Ferguson responded: "Youse are all f****** idiots." At a recent Manchester United plc AGM, Ferguson, mindfully dropping the expletive, called one shareholder simply "an idiot". Yet, I'd heard other stories, too: Ferguson putting himself out for people he hardly knew; Ferguson taking time to help loyal fans with tickets; Ferguson the charming raconteur; Ferguson the student of human nature, possessed of a rare intelligence about what makes other men tick. One football writer summed up the Ferguson character thus: "He can be the best company there is, so it winds me up all the more that he can also be such a shitbag." We started to talk. I asked him if he ever regretted losing his temper and he said yes, that sometimes he "wished it had been with somebody six foot ten. Sometimes it's a small guy, sometimes it's a medium-sized guy. I've no discrimination that way. Sometimes there's guilt. Sometimes you say to yourself, 'Why did I do that?'" He has mellowed slightly, he says. Nowadays, with his players if not the press, he admits to "premeditating my temper if I need to. I never shout at anybody during training. The only thing I say is 'well done'. Saturday is different, because the preparation I give them that week is good enough…" He thought for a moment…"Is perfect, aye always perfect, I would think. So Saturday we look for a result." Last Saturday, Manchester United didn't get that result and there didn't seem to be anything premeditated about his loss of temper then. At half-time, he says, "Sometimes I lose my temper, sometimes I don't. If someone argues with me I have to win the argument. So I start heading towards them, that's where the hairdryer comes in. I can't lose an argument." For the most part that afternoon, Ferguson was pure Dr Jekyll, all twinkly-blue-eyed merriment. On occasions, however, during our three hours together, his face would settle into a harder shape, his eyes locking on to mine, and I would catch a glimpse of what Mr Hyde might be like. This change, I came to realise, always preceded his saying something he wanted me to remember, some part of his creed. "The manager," he said on this occasion, slowly and deliberately, "can nivvah lose an argument." The "hairdryer", incidentally, was the name one former player gave to Ferguson's verbal assaults, his face so close you could feel his breath. Much exaggerated, says Ferguson, all smiles again. So too, he claimed, is the extent of the mind games he employs to psyche out opposing managers as the season moves to its finale. "People get carried away," he chortled. "The press are waiting for everything, 'Old Fergie's at it again.' Somebody close to Arsenal told me Arsène Wenger reads everything I say!" Ferguson stretched for his tea, cackling delightedly at the image of Arsenal's cerebral and reputedly rather humourless manager poring over the sports pages, analysing platitudes for hidden meaning. We moved on to the retirement that never was. Several years ago, Ferguson announced he would retire at the end of the 2001-02 season, the one that finished last summer. Then, about a year ago, he said he wasn't quitting after all, that he still felt fit and hungry for more success. He signed up for another three years. If he hadn't been ready to go at 60, I asked, why would anything be different at 63? "Exactly!" he said, "Exactly! I've never said I will retire then." Oh, I said, but isn't everyone assuming that that will be it? "Yeah, but it's not. If I'm fit and healthy at that time and the team are successful, I could stay on. Quite easily. I could stay on." He told me the story of his change of heart. "The first six months of last season were agony. Agony. I wasna enjoying it at all. I knew I'd made a mistake having pre-announced it [his retirement]. I put pressure on my players [the team made a poor start to last season, losing several home games before Christmas]. Then," continued Ferguson, "New Year, it was my sixtieth birthday. We'd been out for dinner with the family, come back, few drinks, I'd gone for a sleep on the couch through there. Cathy come through, she says, 'I've had a chat with the boys. They don't think you should retire. Think you're off your head. Even if United have got a new manager you should go elsewhere.' I needed someone to kick me. I wouldn't have done it myself." Because you didn't want to admit you'd made a mistake? "That partly, yeah. And having to kow-tow and say, 'Oh, I'm sorry, I said that and I shouldn't have said it.'" He was lucky. The Manchester United board had spent months scouring Europe for a successor, seemingly without any joy. By January last year, however, according to Ferguson, the board had their new man in place. "I think they'd done the deal all right," he says. "I don't know for certain but I'm sure it was Eriksson, y'know?" Done the deal in terms of a signature? "No, no, no. I think they'd shaken hands. They couldn't put anything on paper because he was still England manager." Had he, Ferguson, known this at the time? "No, I'd no idea at all." He went on. "I think Sven Eriksson would have been a nice easy choice for them [the United board] in terms of nothing really happens, does it? He doesna change anything. He sails along, nobody falls out with him." I said that because Sven was a Swede and looks a bit intellectual, we all think he's really deep. "I know," laughed Ferguson. "He comes out and he says [here, the Scot essayed a Swedish accent]: 'The first half we were good, second half we were not so good. I am very pleased with the result.'" We had a good laugh at that. Ferguson said: "I think he'd have been all right for United, you know what I mean? The acceptable face." He hadn't finished with the England boss yet. "Carlos [Queiroz, Ferguson's assistant] knows him because he [Eriksson] was with Benfica and Carlos is from Lisbon. Carlos says what he did well was he never fell out with anyone, best pal with the president [of the club], the press liked him. I think he does this a bit: the press make a suggestion about something, he seems to follow it a bit." For example? "Making David Beckham captain for instance." Was the press suggesting that? "Oh aye, they did aye. In fairness there wasna many options." We moved away from Sven-Göran Eriksson and on to the way the game has changed in the years since the Fergusons made the move south. Once again, Ferguson was in a candid mood. "The salaries players get, I don't think can ever be a good thing for the game. You think to yourself: 'How's it come to this?'" He went on: "The modern man has changed. There's a need to be recognised, a need to be known. You see that with earrings, tattoos, the way that dress sense and hairstyles change every six months." (There is only one Manchester United player I can think of who sports earrings and tattoos and frequent changes of hairstyle. His name, however, remained unsaid.) "A lot of people my age will say the same about the younger generation," continued Ferguson. "Probably when I was in my teens I was the same. I remember buying an LP, Dean Martin, Deano Latino. It was lying on the kitchen table in Govan, my dad comes in and says, 'Jesus God! Who the hell is he?' They talk of the Sixties as the liberating years for young people and they were!" Even so, I said, you kept your self-discipline, didn't you? "Oh aye." I pointed out that in pictures of him as a player in the late Sixties and early Seventies it is noticeable that he never had long hair. (Following an apprenticeship as a toolmaker during which he was also an active shop steward, Ferguson pursued a solid but undistinguished career as a physical - some say overly physical - striker with a string of Scottish clubs.) "Aye, exactly, aye. You're basically what your parents have instilled in you in terms of your discipline, your manners." Your parents, and, he might have added, your community, the mid-century Govan working class, of which he is fiercely proud. What his parents and community instilled in him were the classic respectable working-class virtues of hard work, loyalty, straight talking; in short, "character". His father was a Protestant, his mother Catholic (like his dad, Ferguson married a Catholic, and brought his sons up as Protestants) so, in a sectarian city, what was not instilled, importantly, was bigotry. And the Fergusons were modern people in being upwardly mobile too, Alex Snr ending his career as a timekeeper in the yard. Fifty years after his childhood, Ferguson says what he looks for in a young player, once he is satisfied of his ability, is "character, attitude and the desire to succeed". He wants his players to have what he has, or at least to know that he can teach them what he has. His biggest worry, he says, is not really earrings and tattoos, but how money can erode character. "I worry about the ones who've got a lot of money and are expected to stay at the top, how much you can keep the hunger in them." All this talk of motivation, I said, what I can never understand is how somebody would not be motivated to play their heart out for 60 grand a week. "It's an unconscious thing," said Ferguson. "I signed a [new] contract a few years ago and the first thing I thought after I'd put my name on that line was, 'I'm comfortable now', y'know? My players, suddenly their salaries have escalated to wealth beyond what they could have thought when they were young kids, and I think there's that relaxation, and I think they're best when they're under pressure." When these young men sign new contracts, do you think, 'Jesus, that's so much money'? "Yeah," he said. "[But] with the good players, the really good players, I don't think there's anything wrong with it." I asked: do you still call yourself a socialist? "Yeah, I do, aye." So you must think being paid £80,000 a week to play football, however good you are, when a nurse earns…? He interrupted: "Aye, I couldn't agree more. It is part of life that is totally unfair." And that would be true of your own salary? "Yeah, absolutely." That said, Ferguson has often fallen out with his employers over money. "I've been a manager 28 years and it hasn't been really until the last eight years that I've earned what I should have earned. I was never paid that well at Aberdeen. I know it was 20-odd year ago but my starting wage was only £12,000." Is he bitter? "Nah, it was mah own fault, I signed the contract. And anyway, your riches are not always in money. And," he continued, "when you start as a manager, what are you thinking about? You're thinking about surviving. You don't want to be a casualty. There's that fear factor right through my life. The fear of failure. It's there, it's always there." Still? "Never leaves me." What counts as failure now? "Not winning a trophy." So last season was a failure? "Absolutely. Oh, I felt it, horrible, a numbness." He stared ahead of him, remembering the day at Old Trafford last May when Arsenal won the championship that had been his for the previous three years in a row. "That final minute when you lose, the anger, the frustration…" As he does with all visiting managers, he had invited Arsène Wenger for a post-match drink. Against habit, Wenger had accepted. I asked Ferguson what he made of the distinction often made between the Frenchman Wenger (along with Gérard Houllier at Liverpool) on the one hand, and him, last of a dying breed, on the other. French guile and science versus Scottish rule by fear. He said the two Frenchmen had been great for the game. But, clearly, the distinction rankled a bit (and it would, because Ferguson, with his wine cellar, and his all-conquering racehorse Rock of Gibraltar, and his politics, and his love of film, has a rich life beyond football, whereas Wenger famously spends his spare time watching the German second division on satellite). Ferguson said: "Intelligence! They say he's an intelligent man, right? Speaks five languages! I've got a 15-year-old boy from the Ivory Coast speaks five languages." The conversation drifted on to the previous evening's game at Anfield, where Liverpool had done their fiercest rivals a favour by drawing with Arsenal. "You Manc bastard, come to see the champions?" was the greeting as Ferguson had parked his car. "Good-natured stuff, never any problem at Anfield." Not like Leeds, which he never relishes. "I went there once and got caught at some traffic lights near Elland Road. This bunch of supporters, skinheads, 20 or 30 of them, they see me and go 'Ferguson!' and start running across the road. The lights are still red. I'm almost shitting maself, they're getting nearer, then the light goes to amber and [impersonation of a tyre-squeal] I'm away." He was still chuckling at that when Cathy Ferguson came in carrying little Grace. Alex: "Cathy, you got a biscuit or something? Christ!" Cathy: "I'm holding the bairn! You hold the bairn and I'll bring some biscuits. What would you have done if I hadna come in, eh Alec? You know the road to the cupboard." Ferguson took the baby. I asked how many grandchildren he had. He looked at Jason. "Eight, I think it is. Seven or eight, is it?" "Six," said Jason. "And another on the way," added the grandfather, all pride. "This is Darren's, she's a darling. My eldest boy, Mark, his wife's expecting another one. Jason's got four. I've told him that's the end." Jason: "I'm not sure what you've got to do with it." Alex: "His twins, the girls, bloody belters! I tease 'em to death, tease 'em to death." For the next few minutes, the nation's most flint-faced authority figure, feared and revered in equal measure, bounced his newest grandchild on his knee. He said: "Diddly diddly dee-de-dee, diddly dum de dee." Alex Ferguson sleeps five hours a night. (like Thatcher, I said. He ignored me.) He is usually at the training ground not long after seven. From his office "it's a one-minute walk to the gymnasium", but to his own disgust, "I've not found the bloody gumption to get down there for a month." He has put on half a stone and doesn't like it. When he does go, he walks on the treadmill and does weights. "I've got a bit of a hip problem," he said reluctantly, "so I don't run." He is a friend of Alastair Campbell's ("I've told him I'm against this war, absolutely. He told me to calm down") and he laughs about the photos of Campbell training for the London Marathon. "Bloody strapping on everywhere! His knees are going to be in a million bits by the time he gets to 60!" He does his paperwork and meetings early, then, while his assistants take training, he watches. He used to do everything, he says, then he learnt about "supervision through observation. I watch them all the time. Best thing I ever did." Around this point, God knows why, I asked Sir Alex Ferguson if he was in touch with his feminine side. For the only time that day, he looked confused. "In touch with what?" Er, I stammered, your feminine side, er, in the jargon? Now, he looked utterly bewildered. I had to think rapidly: are you a good listener? "Oh aye," he agreed, his face clearing. "Good listener, aye." He gets home around 4pm. "Usually just watch the telly." (But not, he insisted, Footballers' Wives. "Never seen it. Not my scene. >From what people say, it's not got even a remote likeness to football.") That night, >the day I was there, he and Cathy were going to a Burns supper at a local hotel. He reads a lot, though never fiction. "Come on," he said, "I'll show you my library." He led the way to the snooker room. "I'm unbeatable on this table," he said. "Unbeatable." There were books along one wall. Tony Benn. That two-volume biography of Elvis. Hauser's book on Ali. Mandela. Terry Waite. Bob Monkhouse. Sinatra. Books about the Alamo and Rorke's Drift. A biography of de Valera. A biography of Michael Collins. "He's very good, Tim Pat Coogan." I thought about disagreeing but didn't. A huge tome called Parker's Wine Buyers' Guide. Thatcher's memoirs. "Never read it. It was a present." He picked up When Pride Still Mattered: the Life of Vincent Lombardy. "He was the great coach of the Green Bay Packers. An obsessed, committed guy, bit like myself." Did he regret his lack of education? "No, it didn't inspire me, education. I wanted to go on in life, wanted some excitement." He sent his sons to state schools. We came to the next shelf. Truman's memoirs. Norman Mailer's book on Oswald. "Boring. Nothing book, that." I noticed many other books on the Kennedy assassination. "I've got the autopsy report," Ferguson said. He told me about meeting a man - at a charity dinner at Stoke City, of all places - who had been there in Dallas in '63. "He said Jacqueline Kennedy knew who did it but she would never say." Ferguson recommended a book called Seabiscuit, about a champion horse in Thirties America. "It's a fantastic read, you must read it," he said. "In fact, I'll give you it." Which he did. Jason told his dad to change his shirt for the photographs. He argued, then complied. I surveyed the rest of the room. In the formal room, there had been several originals by Harold Riley, L.S. Lowry's pupil. In the TV room, one wall was given over to old black and whites of family members. In here, in colour, it was mostly Ferguson's other family: Man United squad pictures, lots of them. There were also framed newspaper pages about Jason's twin, Darren, who, having started his career at Manchester United, now plays for Wrexham in the Third Division. (The Fergusons' eldest son, Mark, 34, works for Goldman Sachs in London.) I risked a cigarette out in the drive, glad that Ferguson was busy elsewhere. He had disappeared to find a coat prior to more photographs outside. I went through to see Cathy. Her husband returned, wearing a rather overlong Crombie. "What you doing with that coat on, Alec?" (Close family still call him Alec to distinguish him from his father, although his father has been dead many years.) "Do you not like it, mum?" asked Jason. "Makes him look like something out of Goodfellas," she said. Ferguson pointed at a photograph of four girls on the wall. "Would you look at that! Jesus Christ there's four of them!" "Don't be so cheeky," said Cathy, "that's me and my sisters." "There they are again, that's worse!" said Ferguson gleefully. An old picture of Florence Street in the Gorbals, Cathy's birthplace, then somehow triggered a minor argument about how old Lulu is. Through the french windows we could see the photographer was ready in the garden. The Fergusons had a lively exchange of views as to where the key for the french windows might be. (Without wishing to stereotype a whole city, the Fergusons' interactions certainly support the image of Glasgow as a disputatious place. It took me a while to realise their routine wasn't serious.) Why don't we just walk round, I suggested. Ferguson wrestled with a key a moment longer. "I think we'll just walk round," he announced, as if I hadn't spoken. The temperature outside prompted a memory of his Aberdeen days. "Minus 18, on that beach, wind's hitting your face, freezing your knackers off. You never get used to the cold." Back in the warm, Jason having departed, we chatted in a general way about players. I asked if any had ever been to this house. "Only two or three for personal problems. That's the way it is." If he had a party, would he invite them? "Oh, no. Never, never. It's not my way. Not to say I wouldn't feel comfortable in their company, I've known Ryan, for instance, since he was 13. But it's just not the done thing." Has he ever been in their houses? "Been to Roy Keane's house." Socially? "Nah, just business." I wanted to know about his father-figure role, mentioning that Ted Beckham had often said he would walk through a wall for Fergie, the way he'd looked after his lad so well. "Aye, well, I tell all the parents I'll look after them. I don't say it lightly. In the case of Becks and all these lads from time to time they've all got problems and they know they can trust me, confide in me." How Ferguson will handle Beckham's most recent "problem" caused - albeit accidentally - by Ferguson's own loss of temper remains to be seen. Ferguson looked straight at me once again, another creed moment. "People think there are degrees of loyalty. There's no degrees of loyalty. If someone lets me down once there's no way back." His application of that belief, to himself as much as others, is, I think, the secret of his success. He follows it through to a fault. When Roy Keane got sent off for a horror tackle that he later admitted was a premeditated act of revenge, Ferguson refused to criticise his captain. "When you go into print and criticise a player you're also risking the relationship with their family. If I criticise my players, 'That bloody Beckham, that Keane, he's a bloody idiot, been sent off, I'm fed up with his behaviour, I'll sort him out,' that type of thing, the mother's not happy with that. The father, his brothers, his pals, you make enemies of people." In the modern game, in which footballers' agents have a vested interest in pressurising their clients to move clubs, keeping the young multimillionaires onside is as crucial a part of management as keeping them hungry. As much as anything, Ferguson's success over the past 12 years has been down to his ability to keep the players he wants at the club. It is hard to think of more than one or two players who have left Manchester United whom Ferguson did not want to leave. He leaned forward. "The most protected species in the world is a son. The most protected. The mother and father don't see anything wrong. They might tell 'em in private, but they no tell the neighbours, noowa'ahmin?" He paused. "They're my best chance of success! Why should I criticise them publicly? Doesn't mean to say I let 'em off with anything." When Eric Cantona, having been sent off at Crystal Palace, delivered his infamous kung fu kick at a Palace fan who was racially abusing him, Ferguson was annoyed the Frenchman had got himself sent off, not about the kick. Eight years later, Cantona long-retired, Ferguson was able to say what he felt about the kick at the time. "I said to the directors, 'If that had been me, I'd have probably done exactly the same.' They said, 'Don't dare say that, don't ever say that. Christ, the press will slaughter you.'" We were almost done by then. Cathy was buzzing about, thinking about getting ready for Burns Night. My cab on the way, I asked if he'd felt unfulfilled as a footballer himself. "Oh I did, aye. I wanted to win everything but I never did. I never won a thing." That simple fact alone must form a big part of his managerial determination. He's a driven man, all right, a hard man, and hardest on himself. A bright man, too. And he believes in the old-fashioned virtues of diligence and discipline, he really does. And loyalty, that's the big one. Loyalty such as a family owes to its own members. He believes in that so strongly he has managed to turn a multimillion-pound football club employing hundreds of people, some of them the wealthiest and most famous young men in the country, into a family, a family with Alex Ferguson in charge. *************************************** Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe to the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe from the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/