Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-02-01 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi all, I hope all the WG members could take the time to review and give the authors any feedback. All suggestions are very welcome. Regards, mario Il 01/02/2019 14:46, Antoin Verschuren ha scritto: Dear WG, The call for adoption for draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search ended 25

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-02-01 Thread Antoin Verschuren
[chair hat off] I didn’t want to influence this call for adoption with my personal opinion, but I do have a use case that I think is important to consider. According to the GDRP, any individual has a right to make a request to an entity that gathers data to have insight in what data is stored

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-02-01 Thread Antoin Verschuren
Dear WG, The call for adoption for draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search ended 25 Januari 2019. The results were: Support: 8 Object: 1 The chairs decision to adopt requires some explanation: Adopting work to our working group does not mean a draft will automatically be approved

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-27 Thread Taras Heichenko
Hi all > On Jan 25, 2019, at 18:21, Niels ten Oever > wrote: > > I fully agree that the IETF does not need to restrict its protocols to the > legislations of one geographical area. But I think the IETF should help > implementers to not violate the human rights of end-users, and consider

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Niels ten Oever
Hi Thomas, On 1/25/19 4:18 PM, Thomas Corte wrote: > Hello Niels, > > On 1/25/19 15:39, Niels ten Oever wrote: > >> But if the IETF produces protocols which are non-GDPR compliant upon >> implementation, and are violating human rights, that is imho not something >> we should want. > > Why

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Mario Loffredo
Il 25/01/2019 15:39, Niels ten Oever ha scritto: On 1/25/19 3:28 PM, John R Levine wrote: The final decision on this is planned to be made in April: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88574682=/88574682/102142026/EPDP_summary_timeline_20190116.pdf Not that it's

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Thomas Corte
Hello Niels, On 1/25/19 15:39, Niels ten Oever wrote: > But if the IETF produces protocols which are non-GDPR compliant upon > implementation, and are violating human rights, that is imho not something we > should want. Why should the IETF, a *global* organization, restrict its protocols to

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Andy, Il 25/01/2019 16:02, Andy Newton ha scritto: On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:12:19AM +0530, Gurshabad Grover wrote: On 23/01/19 6:25 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote: [...] In this draft, there are no privacy considerations, and the report that is being cited to legitimize this approach has not

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Andy Newton
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 10:12:19AM +0530, Gurshabad Grover wrote: > On 23/01/19 6:25 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote: > > [...] > > In this draft, there are no privacy considerations, and the report that is > > being cited to legitimize this approach has not been adopted by ICANN the > > organization

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Niels ten Oever
On 1/25/19 3:28 PM, John R Levine wrote: >> The final decision on this is planned to be made in April: >> >> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88574682=/88574682/102142026/EPDP_summary_timeline_20190116.pdf > > Not that it's relevant here, but I am a member of the ICANN

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread John R Levine
The final decision on this is planned to be made in April: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=88574682=/88574682/102142026/EPDP_summary_timeline_20190116.pdf Not that it's relevant here, but I am a member of the ICANN SSAC subcommittee that supports the SSAC reps on the

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Niels ten Oever
On 1/25/19 3:14 PM, John R Levine wrote: >> If a registrant is living in the EU, or a EU citizen, they would be covered >> by GDPR protections, so its impact is quite significant. As you know, ICANN >> and the industry is seeking to find one compliance model. I do not see why >> we would

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread John R Levine
If a registrant is living in the EU, or a EU citizen, they would be covered by GDPR protections, so its impact is quite significant. As you know, ICANN and the industry is seeking to find one compliance model. I do not see why we would deviate from that. I pretty sure nothing has changed

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Tom Harrison
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > ... I support adoption and am willing to contribute/review. -Tom ___ regext mailing list regext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/regext

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-25 Thread Niels ten Oever
On 1/24/19 7:15 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article you > write: >> I totally agree with John here: let's await what comes out of the ICANN EPDP >> and see whether this is actually something that is >> warranted and build it to that spec. > > Please stop trying to put words in my mouth. >

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Gurshabad Grover
On 23/01/19 6:25 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote: > [...] > In this draft, there are no privacy considerations, and the report that is > being cited to legitimize this approach has not been adopted by ICANN the > organization or the community and was very controversial at the time of > publication.

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >I totally agree with John here: let's await what comes out of the ICANN EPDP >and see whether this is actually something that is >warranted and build it to that spec. Please stop trying to put words in my mouth. Regardless of what comes out of the ICANN EPDP, this

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Andy Newton
; > > To: regext@ietf.org > > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext- > > > rdap-reverse-search > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/23/19 8:26 PM, John Levine wrote: > > > > In article <

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi all, Il 24/01/2019 13:19, Hollenbeck, Scott ha scritto: -Original Message- From: regext On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:37 AM To: regext@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext- rdap-reverse-search On 1/23

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Gavin Brown
I support adoption of this document. On 18/01/2019 16:04, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > Hi all, > > As discussed on the mailinglist, we have selected 5 documents that people > most want to be added to our milestone list. > To be able to to that the documents should first be adopted as working

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: regext On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 5:37 AM > To: regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext- > rdap-reverse-search > > > > On 1/23

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Niels ten Oever
On 1/23/19 8:26 PM, John Levine wrote: > In article <0f07073e-9e96-3dee-2c39-9aef91dc9...@digitaldissidents.org> you > write: >> There is also no limitation or specific use defined, which makes this >> protocol in direct violation of with the GDPR. > > I'm sorry, but that assertion is not

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-24 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Andy, my comments below. Il 23/01/2019 21:31, Andy Newton ha scritto: Mario, My response is in-line On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 07:15:02PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: Hi Andy, thanks for your feedback. My comments are below. Il 23/01/2019 16:30, Andy Newton ha scritto: On Fri, Jan 18,

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Andy Newton
Mario, My response is in-line On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 07:15:02PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: > Hi Andy, > > thanks for your feedback. My comments are below. > > Il 23/01/2019 16:30, Andy Newton ha scritto: > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > > > Hi all, >

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread John Levine
In article <0f07073e-9e96-3dee-2c39-9aef91dc9...@digitaldissidents.org> you write: >There is also no limitation or specific use defined, which makes this protocol >in direct violation of with the GDPR. I'm sorry, but that assertion is not even wrong. The GDPR affects entities that process or

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Andy, thanks for your feedback. My comments are below. Il 23/01/2019 16:30, Andy Newton ha scritto: On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Antoin Verschuren wrote: Hi all, As discussed on the mailinglist, we have selected 5 documents that people most want to be added to our milestone

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Andy Newton
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Antoin Verschuren wrote: > Hi all, > > As discussed on the mailinglist, we have selected 5 documents that people > most want to be added to our milestone list. > To be able to to that the documents should first be adopted as working group > documents. >

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Andy Newton
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 01:55:31PM +0100, Niels ten Oever wrote: > > I strongly object to the adoption of this document as it currently stands. > > In this draft, there are no privacy considerations, and the report that is > being cited to legitimize this approach has not been adopted by ICANN

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Niels ten Oever
On 1/23/19 1:37 PM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: regext On Behalf Of Antoin Verschuren >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 11:04 AM >> To: Registration Protocols Extensions >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Call for adoption: draft-lo

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-23 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: regext On Behalf Of Antoin Verschuren > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 11:04 AM > To: Registration Protocols Extensions > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap- > reverse-search > >

Re: [regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-18 Thread Maurizio Martinelli
I support its adoption. Kind regards, Maurizio Martinelli Inviato da iPhone > Il giorno 18 gen 2019, alle ore 17:04, Antoin Verschuren ha > scritto: > > Hi all, > > As discussed on the mailinglist, we have selected 5 documents that people > most want to be added to our milestone list. > To

[regext] Call for adoption: draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search

2019-01-18 Thread Antoin Verschuren
Hi all, As discussed on the mailinglist, we have selected 5 documents that people most want to be added to our milestone list. To be able to to that the documents should first be adopted as working group documents. This is a formal adoption request for draft-loffredo-regext-rdap-reverse-search