Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-29 Thread Andrew Newton
+1000. Outside of some Skynet scenarios, I'm highly skeptical about clients evolving behaviors on their own. -andy On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:26 PM Jasdip Singh wrote: > > Hi. > > Very interesting discussion. :) Couple of inputs regarding the proposed > discovery and IANA registration of reverse

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Mario, Am 29.11.22 um 07:46 schrieb Mario Loffredo: Hi Pawel, Il 28/11/2022 22:02, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Hi Mario, My comment inline. Am 28.11.22 um 21:20 schrieb Mario Loffredo: "A custom reverse search property MUST NOT collide with a registered reverse search property and MUST N

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Jasdip, thanks for joining the discussion. I have always been much more in favor of providing self-descriptive REST APIs (i.e. the HATOAS approach) rather than using a centralized registry. Therefore, I have always preferred metadata discovery over registration. However, I admit that the

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Tom, my comments below. Il 28/11/2022 23:36, Tom Harrison ha scritto: Hi Mario, On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 07:19:20PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: Il 27/11/2022 22:49, Tom Harrison ha scritto: On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 02:18:35PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: Even now there is no real way to p

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Pawel, Il 28/11/2022 22:02, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Hi Mario, My comment inline. Am 28.11.22 um 21:20 schrieb Mario Loffredo: "A custom reverse search property MUST NOT collide with a registered reverse search property and MUST NOT match an RDAP property, or any of its variants, match

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Jasdip Singh
Hi. Very interesting discussion. :) Couple of inputs regarding the proposed discovery and IANA registration of reverse search properties: In the spirit of what-not-to-do, is it really necessary to evolve reverse search this way? As long as each registered extension identifier (current and futu

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Tom Harrison
Hi Mario, On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 07:19:20PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: > Il 27/11/2022 22:49, Tom Harrison ha scritto: >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 02:18:35PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: >>> Even now there is no real way to prevent collisions since >>> extension identifiers and JSON values are n

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Mario, My comment inline. Am 28.11.22 um 21:20 schrieb Mario Loffredo: "A custom reverse search property MUST NOT collide with a registered reverse search property and MUST NOT match an RDAP property, or any of its variants, matched by a registered reverse search property." [PK] not sure a

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Pawel, please find my comments below. Il 28/11/2022 07:54, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Hi, My comments below. Am 27.11.22 um 22:49 schrieb Tom Harrison: [...] I still think that custom properties are useful for the reasons above. On the other hand, their possible misuse should be ruled so

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Tom, please find my comments below prefixed with ML3. Il 27/11/2022 22:49, Tom Harrison ha scritto: Hi Mario, On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 02:18:35PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: Il 24/11/2022 13:46, Tom Harrison ha scritto: This is the part I (still) don't follow, sorry. The fact that the la

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-27 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi, My comments below. Am 27.11.22 um 22:49 schrieb Tom Harrison: [...] I still think that custom properties are useful for the reasons above. On the other hand, their possible misuse should be ruled somehow. Here in the following a possible statement limiting the scope of custom properties:

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-27 Thread Tom Harrison
Hi Mario, On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 02:18:35PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: > Il 24/11/2022 13:46, Tom Harrison ha scritto: >> This is the part I (still) don't follow, sorry. The fact that the >> label is a JSON value in the "reverse_search_properties" member of >> the help response does not mean t

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-25 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Tom, please see my comments below prefixed by [ML2] Il 24/11/2022 13:46, Tom Harrison ha scritto: Hi Mario, On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 09:42:56AM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: Il 22/11/2022 14:00, Tom Harrison ha scritto: On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 04:40:28PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: With r

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-24 Thread Tom Harrison
Hi Mario, On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 09:42:56AM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: > Il 22/11/2022 14:00, Tom Harrison ha scritto: >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 04:40:28PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: >>> With regard to the registration of the reverse search properties, >>> I have opted for adding entries in

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-23 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Tom, thank you for your feedback. Please find my comments below. Il 22/11/2022 14:00, Tom Harrison ha scritto: Hi Mario, On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 04:40:28PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: With regard to the registration of the reverse search properties, I have opted for adding entries in the

Re: [regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-22 Thread Tom Harrison
Hi Mario, On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 04:40:28PM +0100, Mario Loffredo wrote: > With regard to the registration of the reverse search properties, I > have opted for adding entries in the RDAP JSON Values registry > rather than defining an ad-hoc registry. > > That is because servers must include the

[regext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-regext-rdap-reverse-search-16.txt

2022-11-21 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi all, this new version addresses last Pawel's feedback. With regard to the registration of the reverse search properties, I have opted for adding entries in the RDAP JSON Values registry rather than defining an ad-hoc registry. That is because servers must include the reverse search proper