Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Spam
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Additionally, files-as-directores does not solve the problem of cp a b losing named streams. There is curently no copyfile syscall in the Linux kernel, cp a b essentially does cat a b. So unless cp is modified we don't gain anything. If cp is

Re: Reiser4 and NFS

2004-09-07 Thread Vladimir Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 12:05, Oliver Korpilla wrote: Hello Vladimir, I guess not. Both my clients are embedded systems, and both didn't work. Client/Target one is a Motorola MVME2100 board with an MPC8240 PowerPC CPU @ 200 MHz. Client/Target two is a Motorola MVME5500 board

Re: Reiser4 and NFS

2004-09-07 Thread Oliver Korpilla
Compiling and installing the patch remotely while writing this, but I can test it with both client and server tomorrow, about 20 hrs from now. I'll let you know the results. With kind regards, Oliver Korpilla Vladimir Saveliev wrote: Either this is a NFSv3/Reiser4/2.6.8.1 server vs.

Re: Squid eating up all CPU

2004-09-07 Thread Alex Zarochentsev
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 04:50:46PM +0300, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: On Tue 7 September 2004 15:52, Alex Zarochentsev wrote: Hi Alex, Everything seems to work well, except..the Squid process is eating up all CPU: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Horst von Brand
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Christer Weinigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] Could you please try summarize a few of the arguments that you find especially compelling? This thread has gotten very confused since there are a bunch of different subjects all being intermixed here.

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Horst von Brand
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Christer Weinigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] But this still solves only part of the problem. A backup application won't have any use for a copyfile syscall, it will need to be taught about streams. Yes, but backup programs always needed to be taught

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One suggestion is missed. It is to provide system calls for copy. That would also solve the problem. No, it would not. If you read the POSIX.1 specification for cp carefully http://www.unix.org/version3/online.html, you will notice that the process for copying

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Spam
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One suggestion is missed. It is to provide system calls for copy. That would also solve the problem. No, it would not. If you read the POSIX.1 specification for cp carefully http://www.unix.org/version3/online.html, you will notice that the process

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One suggestion is missed. It is to provide system calls for copy. That would also solve the problem. No, it would not. If you read the POSIX.1 specification for cp carefully http://www.unix.org/version3/online.html, you

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Hans Reiser
Horst von Brand wrote: Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Christer Weinigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] Could you please try summarize a few of the arguments that you find especially compelling? This thread has gotten very confused since there are a bunch of different subjects all being

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Hans Reiser
Christer Weinigel wrote: Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Additionally, files-as-directores does not solve the problem of cp a b losing named streams. reiser4 does not support streams, it supports files that can do what streams do. cp -r does not currently lose files.

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Hans Reiser
Christer Weinigel wrote: David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |Second, there are quite a few things which I might want to do, which can |be done with this interface and without patching programs, | Such as? They've been mentioned. | Haven't seen any that made sense to me, sorry.

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Hans Reiser
Horst von Brand wrote: Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Horst von Brand wrote: Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Christer Weinigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] 2. How do we want to expose named streams? One suggestion is file-as-directory in some form.

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Gunnar Ritter
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gunnar Ritter wrote: You cannot just 'modify cp'. People who think that POSIX is the objective rather than the least common denominator of OS design I am not principally adversed against extensions to POSIX. My mailx implementation 'nail' has e.g.

Re: Comments about indexing and query solving in user land

2004-09-07 Thread daniel.poelzleithner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grzegorz Jakiewicz wrote: |In our project http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxsfs-tm/ we did the |attribute indexing and query parsing in the user-space and we had hooks |in the VFS which communicated with the user-space deamons. As far as

Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why

2004-09-07 Thread Hans Reiser
Pavel Machek wrote: Hi! Answer: choose obscure names Problem (all credit to Mr. Demidov for identifying this problem, I argued the other viewpoint, and I can only claim the wisdom to know that I lost the argument): names like ..metas are ugly to new users, who don't really care for languages

HELP! Reiser 3.6 - attempt to access beyond end of device, then oops on mount

2004-09-07 Thread David Greaves
Hi I first got this oops 'out of the blue' Memtest seems to run fine When rebooting and remounting, it now oopses every time I remount the fs First Oops: Sep 7 20:32:04 cu kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device Sep 7 20:32:04 cu kernel: dm-0: rw=0,

Re: HELP! Reiser 3.6 - attempt to access beyond end of device, then oops on mount

2004-09-07 Thread David Greaves
David Greaves wrote: Hi I first got this oops 'out of the blue' Memtest seems to run fine When rebooting and remounting, it now oopses every time I remount the fs I should have given you: The reiserfs is on top of an lvm2 on top of a raid5 I tried booting with 2.6.6 and then 2.6.7 dmesg: Linux

Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why

2004-09-07 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! What about choosing just ... instead of metas? metas is string that needs translation etc, while ... is nicely neutral. cat /sound_of_silence.mp3/.../author does not look bad, either... ... is pretty good, but I think it has been used by others, but I really forget who. I could

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

2004-09-07 Thread Spam
Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Horst von Brand wrote: Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Horst von Brand wrote: Spam [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Christer Weinigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [...] 2. How do we want to expose named streams? One suggestion is file-as-directory in