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Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Nikita Danilov
Alexander G. M. Smith writes: Nikita Danilov wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 15:00:52 +0400: Nothing in VFS prevents files from supporting both read(2) and readdir(3). The problem is with link(2): VFS assumes that directories form _tree_, that is, every directory has well-defined parent.

Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-31 Thread Dan Oglesby
Matthias Barremaecker wrote: Hi, Thanx for your reply. The data is not THAT importend, all our importend data is backuped 4 times, inc. original (well, 3 times now, since the 1300gig machine is broke). I did a bit furtur reasearch and maybe this is something to think about if you use

Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-31 Thread Matthias Barremaecker
Hi Dan, My recovery goes rather well... Does the badblocks count or anything ? With me it counted. You have to write the bad block no's to a file and feed that to the reiserfschk. I didn't completed a full badblock check coz I knew the badblocks could only be at the beginning of the lvm

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Hans Reiser
Nikita Danilov wrote: Alexander G. M. Smith writes: Nikita Danilov wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 15:00:52 +0400: Nothing in VFS prevents files from supporting both read(2) and readdir(3). The problem is with link(2): VFS assumes that directories form _tree_, that is, every directory has

Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-31 Thread Dan Oglesby
Matthias Barremaecker wrote: Hi Dan, My recovery goes rather well... Does the badblocks count or anything ? With me it counted. So far, I haven't seen any bad blocks written to my output file. I'm not in front of the machine (remote location), so I can't see what's on the console, where

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Nikita Danilov
Hello Hans, Hans Reiser writes: Nikita Danilov wrote: Alexander G. M. Smith writes: Nikita Danilov wrote on Mon, 30 May 2005 15:00:52 +0400: Nothing in VFS prevents files from supporting both read(2) and readdir(3). The problem is with link(2): VFS assumes that directories

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 31 May 2005 08:04:42 PDT, Hans Reiser said: Cycle may consists of more graph nodes than fits into memory. There are pathname length restrictions already in the kernel that should prevent that, yes? The problem is that although a *single* pathname can't be longer than some length,

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Re: File as a directory - Ordered Relations

2005-05-31 Thread Jonathan Briggs
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 01:19 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2005 23:56:35 CDT, David Masover said: Hans, comment please? Is this approaching v5 / v6 / Future Vision? It does seem more than a little clunky when applied to v4... Well, if you

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Jonathan Briggs
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 12:30 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2005 08:04:42 PDT, Hans Reiser said: Cycle may consists of more graph nodes than fits into memory. There are pathname length restrictions already in the kernel that should prevent that, yes? The problem is

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Hans Reiser
What happens when you unlink the True Name? Hans Jonathan Briggs wrote: You can avoid cycles by redefining the problem. Every file or data object has one single True Name which is their inode or OID. Each data object then has one or more names as properties. Names are either single strings

Re: File as a directory - Ordered Relations

2005-05-31 Thread Hans Reiser
Jonathan Briggs wrote: Why innovate in the filesystem though, when it would work just as well or better in the VFS layer? Why don't we just have one filesystem, think of the advantages. ;-) I don't try to get other people to follow my lead anymore, I just ship code that works. Putting it

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Jonathan Briggs
Either that isn't allowed, or it immediately vanishes from all directories. If deleting by OID isn't allowed, then every name property must be removed in order to delete the file. Personally, I would allow deleting the OID. It would be a convenient way to be sure every instance of a file was

Re: Reiserfs 1300G partition on lvm problem ...

2005-05-31 Thread Christian
On Tue, May 31, 2005 17:09, Dan Oglesby said: So far, I haven't seen any bad blocks written to my output file. I'm not in front of the machine (remote location), so I can't see what's on the console, where I'm actually running the command. use screendump(1) to see what's on the console. it

Reiser4/Encryption plugin stability?

2005-05-31 Thread ADT
Hi everyone, I'm looking into using reiser4 and it's encryption plugin on a number of new CentOS4 servers I will be building. I've been doing various searches via google and the list archives, and I've seen a few emails from last year which indicated that the encryption plugin wasn't yet ready

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Nikita Danilov
Jonathan Briggs writes: On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 12:30 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2005 08:04:42 PDT, Hans Reiser said: Cycle may consists of more graph nodes than fits into memory. There are pathname length restrictions already in the kernel that should

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Hans Reiser
Well,. if you allow multiple true names, then you start to resemble something I suggested a few years ago, in which I outlined a taxonomy of links, and suggested that some links would count towards the reference count and some would not. Of course, that does nothing for the cycle problem..

Re: Reiser4/Encryption plugin stability?

2005-05-31 Thread Edward Shishkin
ADT wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking into using reiser4 and it's encryption plugin on a number of new CentOS4 servers I will be building. I've been doing various searches via google and the list archives, and I've seen a few emails from last year which indicated that the encryption plugin

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Hans Reiser
What about if we have it that only the first name a directory is created with counts towards its reference count, and that if the directory is moved if it is moved from its first name, the new name becomes the one that counts towards the reference count? A bit of a hack, but would work. Hans

reiser4 on large block devices

2005-05-31 Thread Aaron Porter
I'm trying to create a reiser4 filesystem on a ~4tb block device, but I'm getting the error Fatal: The partition size is too big. The FAQ seems to list a max filesystem size of 16tb. Am I missing something? diablo:~# mkreiser4 /dev/sda3 mkreiser4 1.0.4 Copyright (C) 2001, 2002, 2003,

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2005-05-31 Thread Nathan
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Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Jonathan Briggs
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 15:01 -0600, Jonathan Briggs wrote: I should create an example. Wherever I used True Name previously, use OID instead. True Name was simply another term for a unique object identifier. Three files with OIDs of 1001, 1002, and 1003. Object 1001: name: /tmp/A/file1

Re: Reiser4/Encryption plugin stability?

2005-05-31 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Shishkin wrote: ADT wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking into using reiser4 and it's encryption plugin on a number of new CentOS4 servers I will be building. I've been doing various searches via google and the list archives, and I've seen a

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Nikita Danilov
Jonathan Briggs writes: On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 15:01 -0600, Jonathan Briggs wrote: I should create an example. Wherever I used True Name previously, use OID instead. True Name was simply another term for a unique object identifier. Three files with OIDs of 1001, 1002, and

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Jonathan Briggs
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 02:36 +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote: Jonathan Briggs writes: On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 15:01 -0600, Jonathan Briggs wrote: I should create an example. Wherever I used True Name previously, use OID instead. True Name was simply another term for a unique object

Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes

2005-05-31 Thread Alexander G. M. Smith
Nikita Danilov wrote on Tue, 31 May 2005 13:34:55 +0400: Cycle may consists of more graph nodes than fits into memory. Cycle detection is crucial for rename semantics, and if cycle-just-about-to-be-formed doesn't fit into memory it's not clear how to detect it, because tree has to be locked