Re: Article on LWN about recent discussions on reiser4 and inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Hans Reiser
Jorgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote: The recent discussions regarding reiser4 and possible inclusion have also caught the eye(s) of LWN. I have made the article available for you, non-lwn-subscribers, so that you may have a look at it here http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/193663/9d2ac03195c775bc/;.

Re: Checksumming blocks? [was Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

2006-08-04 Thread Toby Thain
On 4-Aug-06, at 3:25 AM, Russell Leighton wrote: If the software (filesystem like ZFS or database like Berkeley DB) finds a mismatch for a checksum on a block read, then what? Is there a recovery mechanism, or do you just be happy you know there is a problem (and go to backup)? ZFS

Re: Article on LWN about recent discussions on reiser4 and inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Jorgen Hermanrud Fjeld
Hi, On 2006-08-03 23:44:55, Hans Reiser wrote: Jorgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote: The recent discussions regarding reiser4 and possible inclusion have also caught the eye(s) of LWN. I have made the article available for you, non-lwn-subscribers, so that you may have a look at it here

Re: Checksumming blocks? [was Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

2006-08-04 Thread Russell Leighton
That was exactly the summary I was looking for. I would enourage folks to read the referenced link Toby sent: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bonwick?entry=zfs_end_to_end_data ...also the linked RAID-Z summary from this article was very interesting, since something like this is needed

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Edward Shishkin
Hans Reiser wrote: Edward Shishkin wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind of forward error correction would that be, Actually we use checksums, not ECC. If

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Antonio Vargas
On 8/4/06, Edward Shishkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Edward Shishkin wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind of forward error correction would that

Re: Checksumming blocks? [was Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion]

2006-08-04 Thread David Masover
Russell Leighton wrote: Is there a recovery mechanism, or do you just be happy you know there is a problem (and go to backup)? You probably go to backup anyway. The recovery mechanism just means you get to choose the downtime to restore from backup (if there is downtime), versus being

Re: reiser4: maybe just fix bugs?

2006-08-04 Thread David Masover
Theodore Tso wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 11:55:57AM -0500, David Masover wrote: If I understand it right, the original Reiser4 model of file metadata is the file-as-directory stuff that caused such a furor the last big push for inclusion (search for Silent semantic changes in Reiser4):

symlink issues with reiser4

2006-08-04 Thread Gurganus, Brant L
Title: symlink issues with reiser4 Before I investigate whether it is a problem with the test or tested program or something else, are there known issues with symbolic links and reiser4? See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-485689-highlight-reiser4+symbolic.html for details on what I am

Re: metadata plugins (was Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion)

2006-08-04 Thread David Masover
Horst H. von Brand wrote: Vladimir V. Saveliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 17:32 +0200, Łukasz Mierzwa wrote: What fancy (beside cryptocompress) does reiser4 do now? it is supposed to provide an ability to easy modify filesystem behaviour in various aspects without

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Hans Reiser
Edward Shishkin wrote: How about we switch to ecc, which would help with bit rot not sector loss? Interesting aspect. Yes, we can implement ECC as a special crypto transform that inflates data. As I mentioned earlier, it is possible via translation of key offsets with scale factor 1.

Re: the 'official' point of view expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion

2006-08-04 Thread Hans Reiser
Antonio Vargas wrote: On 8/4/06, Edward Shishkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: Edward Shishkin wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Hans Reiser wrote: You will want to try our compression plugin, it has an ecc for every 64k What kind