Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-05-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 15 May 2004 14:10:10 +0300, Markus =?UNKNOWN?Q?T=F6rnqvist?= said: This has been discussed. There is the mailer that uses an @-named symlink to the current message. Can't remember which one. That would be MH, nhm, and exmh... pgpVdhLh4Ebv2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-13 Thread Narcoleptic Electron
Beni Cherniavsky wrote: Note that changing the magic name (dynamically or even by recompiling) can create a confilict with an *exisiting* file on a reiserfs4 partition (the file could have been created when another name was magic). The FS code should be ready to handle it, preferably

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-13 Thread Hans Reiser
Narcoleptic Electron wrote: Beni Cherniavsky wrote: Note that changing the magic name (dynamically or even by recompiling) can create a confilict with an *exisiting* file on a reiserfs4 partition (the file could have been created when another name was magic). The FS code should be ready

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-13 Thread John D. Heintz
Hans Reiser wrote: Of course, now that we have funding for views, when that is completed you will be able to specify a view that cannot access metas. First, congratulations on getting the funding! Second, I'm curious! Would views enable disambiguating conflicted names from plugins? Thanks,

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-09 Thread Stewart Smith
On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 14:22, Scott Young wrote: by putting a / at the end of their name. Folders are more complicated, but I think it should be done by just adding a slash after the full directory name (full as in including a trailing slash, so therefore there would be two slashes at the end

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-06 Thread camis
What about meths (short for methods)? Is that a word in any language? Meths is word already in english..

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-06 Thread Nikita Danilov
camis writes: What about meths (short for methods)? Is that a word in any language? Meths is word already in english.. Indeed, meths is plural of meth which is (rare) synonym for a meath, a mead, Russian m'od: From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: Meath

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:05:45 +0400, Nikita Danilov said: Meath \Meath\, Meathe \Meathe\, n. [See {Mead}.] A sweet liquor; mead. [Obs.] --Chaucer. Milton. On the other hand, both those Chaucer and Milton blokes have been dust for quite some time, and the language has moved on. Does

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-05 Thread Cami
Good point, search engines as evidence. The problem is you're only looking at distributions, which are going to be highly similar and you're completely missing end users. So let us take this to a full search engine and see what turns up... Hmm, roughly a million hits, let us look at a few

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-04 Thread Hubert Chan
Grant == Grant Miner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grant You mean /sys/fs/reiser4/metas? :P My /sys doesn't even have a fs subdirectory. So I'm pretty sure I mean /proc (unless you can tell me why it should be in /sys. But AFAICT /sys deals more with accessing hardware properties.). -- Hubert

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-04 Thread Elliott Mitchell
From: Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] these problems will not exist significantly in reality. Look at netapps and snapshots and clearcase and other filesystems, I remember wondering if .snapshot could be a problem when netapps were new and it was never a problem. Notice though that that

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-04 Thread Hubert Chan
The == The Amazing Dragon (Elliott Mitchell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The Good point, search engines as evidence. The problem is you're only The looking at distributions, which are going to be highly similar and The you're completely missing end users. So let us take this to a full The

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Narcoleptic Electron
Hans Reiser wrote: Narcoleptic Electron wrote: What is the plan for addressing the name clash problems that this causes? (eg. I copy a directory, that happens to contain a metas directory, to my Reiser4 partition) these problems will not exist significantly in reality. Look at

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Hubert Chan
Narcoleptic == Narcoleptic Electron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Narcoleptic True; as long as everyone refers to the metas directory Narcoleptic properly (using an environment variable, for example, as Narcoleptic opposed to hard-coding the string metas anywhere), it Narcoleptic will be

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Christian Iversen
On Sunday 04 April 2004 06:28, Hubert Chan wrote: Narcoleptic == Narcoleptic Electron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Narcoleptic True; as long as everyone refers to the metas directory Narcoleptic properly (using an environment variable, for example, as Narcoleptic opposed to

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Grant Miner
I do not disagree that it is unlikely. However, it is still possible, so my question remains: what happens in the scenario I describe? Hi What happens now is open() returns EEXIST (file exists) error; reiser4 can't make the file. Is this what you mean?

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Grant Miner
Hubert Chan wrote: Narcoleptic == Narcoleptic Electron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Narcoleptic True; as long as everyone refers to the metas directory Narcoleptic properly (using an environment variable, for example, as Narcoleptic opposed to hard-coding the string metas

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-03 Thread Narcoleptic Electron
Christian Iversen wrote: On Sunday 04 April 2004 06:28, Hubert Chan wrote: Narcoleptic == Narcoleptic Electron writes: Narcoleptic True; as long as everyone refers to the metas directory Narcoleptic properly (using an environment variable, for example, as Narcoleptic opposed to

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-01 Thread Alexander G. M. Smith
Elliott Mitchell wrote on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:46:14 -0800 (PST): Also I feel it should be on the file itself. ie for the file /tmp/fooblah you should be able to access the file's metadata by open()ing/using readdir() on /tmp/fooblah/metas or (/tmp/fooblah/..metas or whatever). Sounds good to

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-01 Thread Narcoleptic Electron
This discussion is spiralling out of control. There is far too much misunderstanding. A discussion summary is in order. PROPOSALS: 1. Leave the metas directory as it is, for storing the meta data hierarchy. 2. Rename metas to: a) ..metas b) @ c) + 3. Revise the architecture so that instead

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-04-01 Thread Christian Iversen
On Thursday 01 April 2004 18:31, Narcoleptic Electron wrote: If there are other approaches not addressed here, or clarification required, please feel free to revise this list. I think someone suggested putting meta file information in /proc. So. Is this a bad idea? I think not. In this

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-03-31 Thread Narcoleptic Electron
Hubert Chan wrote: That effectively kills all filenames that contain @, much worse than just a metas conflict IMHO. I strongly agree: - A restricted character in all names is far more likely to impact users than a single restricted name. - Different types of directories, and extra rules

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-03-31 Thread Christian Mayrhuber
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 17:58, Narcoleptic Electron wrote: No one in this thread has commented on + as the default meta directory name (one of the final contenders in our previous thread on the subject). Again, the reasons: - Short (one character) - Makes sense in all languages (meaning

Re: [PATCH] metas in reiserfs v4 snapshot 2004.03.26

2004-03-31 Thread Elliott Mitchell
From: Narcoleptic Electron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hubert Chan wrote: That effectively kills all filenames that contain @, much worse than just a metas conflict IMHO. I strongly agree: - A restricted character in all names is far more likely to impact users than a single restricted