So - anyone have any ideas when ACLs might appear in Reiser4?
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Marc Perkel wrote:
So - anyone have any ideas when ACLs might appear in Reiser4?
We have a lot on our plate now, and no one paying for that work. Surely
someone will pay for it.
Hans
) and then you add the innovative
stuff. Otherwise people are going to use Ext3 because it has ACLs and
Reiser4 doesn't. That's where I'm at. If it doesn't do ACLs it doesn't
work. I need acls.
AFAIK, ACLs are separate from xattr. It's just that Ext3 uses xattr to
store their ACLs. So
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:24:17 +0400, Nikita Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4. But it used standard xattrs API to interface
to the user-land, and it was decided that reiser4 should go
sys_reiser4() route
Hubert Chan writes:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:24:17 +0400, Nikita Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4. But it used standard xattrs API to interface
to the user-land, and it was decided that reiser4
Jonathan Briggs writes:
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 00:19 +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote:
Hubert Chan writes:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:24:17 +0400, Nikita Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4.
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Sorry, it seems I was too vague. It's exactly the opposite: standard
xattr API was abandoned in favour of accessing EAs and ACLs through
pseudo files. The latter method is not implemented yet, and I don't know
how stable sys_reiser4() API is currently. Hans is the proper
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Well, this song has been sung many times already. :-) Hans has strong
opinion about xattr API (which, indeed, is not a paragon of design
beauty by a large margin).
I'm new to this debate. What is his strong opinion?
Marc Perkel wrote:
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Well, this song has been sung many times already. :-) Hans has strong
opinion about xattr API (which, indeed, is not a paragon of design
beauty by a large margin).
I'm new to this debate. What is his strong opinion?
Well, I'll let him speak for
Marc Perkel wrote:
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Sorry, it seems I was too vague. It's exactly the opposite: standard
xattr API was abandoned in favour of accessing EAs and ACLs through
pseudo files. The latter method is not implemented yet, and I don't know
how stable sys_reiser4() API is
Jonathan Briggs wrote:
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 00:19 +0400, Nikita Danilov wrote:
Hubert Chan writes:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:24:17 +0400, Nikita Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4. But it used standard
away from EXT2/3. Priorities first.
Otherwise people are going to use Ext3 because it has ACLs and Reiser4
doesn't. That's where I'm at. If it doesn't do ACLs it doesn't work. I
need acls.
So why fix something that isn't broken? Just because one person who
uses ACLs doesn't use Reiser4 right
. Otherwise,
people won't convert away from EXT2/3. Priorities first.
Otherwise people are going to use Ext3 because it has ACLs and Reiser4
doesn't. That's where I'm at. If it doesn't do ACLs it doesn't work. I
need acls.
So why fix something that isn't broken? Just because one person who
uses
are going to use Ext3 because it has ACLs and
Reiser4 doesn't. That's where I'm at. If it doesn't do ACLs it doesn't
work. I need acls.
AFAIK, ACLs are separate from xattr. It's just that Ext3 uses xattr to
store their ACLs. So it should be possible to implement ACLs (following
the same
On 13 Aug 2005, Marc Perkel wrote:
So - how do you get Reiser 4 to work with ACLs? Can't find a mount
option in any docs.
They are not supported yet under Reiser4. I'm sure this
is keeping just a few people from early adoption at the moment.
:)
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Mark Nipper wrote:
On 13 Aug 2005, Marc Perkel wrote:
So - how do you get Reiser 4 to work with ACLs? Can't find a mount
option in any docs.
They are not supported yet under Reiser4. I'm sure this
is keeping just a few people from early adoption at the moment.
:)
On 8/14/05, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So - what's the story with that? Why no ACLs in a system built on a
dadtbase?
Database. And you *could* ask, I suppose, why there are no
compression or other plugins available in a system based on plugins.
Why there is no repacker when there
michael chang writes:
On 8/14/05, Marc Perkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So - what's the story with that? Why no ACLs in a system built on a
dadtbase?
Database. And you *could* ask, I suppose, why there are no
compression or other plugins available in a system based on plugins.
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4. But it used standard xattrs API to interface to
the user-land, and it was decided that reiser4 should go sys_reiser4()
route instead. So, it was reaped.
Nikita.
OK - now I'm
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:38:40 PDT, Marc Perkel said:
btw - is Reiser4 still going to get merged into 2.6.13?
It's not in 2.6.13-rc6, and I doubt Linus is going to blop *that* big
a chunk of code in this late - it's already well into the is this 3-liner
too drastic phase.
What happens when the
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Marc Perkel wrote:
My background is in Netware. Netware did it right. It's permissions that
it had 15 years ago were beyond what Linux might ever acheive. Then I
downgraded to Windows, then I further downgraded to Linux. In fact when
I started using linux it took me
Marc Perkel wrote:
Nikita Danilov wrote:
Not exactly. As a matter of fact, ACL and EA support was already
implemented in reiser4. But it used standard xattrs API to interface to
the user-land, and it was decided that reiser4 should go sys_reiser4()
route instead. So, it was reaped.
Nikita.
Marc Perkel wrote:
Mark Nipper wrote:
On 13 Aug 2005, Marc Perkel wrote:
So - how do you get Reiser 4 to work with ACLs? Can't find a mount
option in any docs.
They are not supported yet under Reiser4. I'm sure this
is keeping just a few people from early adoption at the
So - how do you get Reiser 4 to work with ACLs? Can't find a mount
option in any docs.
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