Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 13:25:14 CDT, David Masover said: I was just trying to avoid the people will never adopt a new archive format argument by pointing out that a similar archive format was recently created and adopted. Out of curiosity, adopted by popular acclaim, or because an 800 pound

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Vladimir Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 06:58, Andi Kleen wrote: Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * metafiles should be disabled until we can present code that works right. Half the list thinks we cannot solve the cycles problem ever. Disable metafiles and postpone problem until working

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Vitaly Fertman
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 01:07, David Masover wrote: Vitaly Fertman wrote: On Friday 24 June 2005 23:46, Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: I was able to recover from bad blocks, though of course no Reiser that I know of has had bad block relocation built in... there was a

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Andi Kleen
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:37:11PM +0400, Vladimir Saveliev wrote: have neither prof.[ch], nor spinprof.[ch] and we removed already some debugging code from spin_macros.h. Yes, i was looking at some older tree with reiser4. Sorry, just ignore what is already done. But still spin_macros.h

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Artem B. Bityuckiy
Andi Kleen wrote: Yes, i was looking at some older tree with reiser4. Sorry, just ignore what is already done. But still spin_macros.h should be completely removed imho. Such custom lock wrappers are strongly discouraged because it makes it hard for others to read your code. I may comfirm

dmapi support for reiser4

2005-06-28 Thread Bjoern JACKE
Hi, DMAPI support is a feature which is essential for usage in many important environments. Are there any plans to add dmapi support to reiser4 ? Bjoern

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:00:01PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Andrew asked me to put together a list of things that need to be done before merging: ... Probably I forget something. I've started to do a very basic look over the tree and there's a few more things that spring to mind: - cpp

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:00:01PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Andrew asked me to put together a list of things that need to be done before merging: ... Probably I forget something. * remove the dependency on !4KSTACKS Best, Hans cu Adrian -- Is there not promise of rain?

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Vitaly Fertman
On Friday 24 June 2005 03:57, Hans Reiser wrote: One, you were using V3 not V4. Two, this bug you mention is probably not an fs bug. rm first creates a list of names, and then removes them. shell creates a list of names, rm simply handles the given set of names and tries to remove a file

Re: dmapi support for reiser4

2005-06-28 Thread Vladimir Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 13:34, Bjoern JACKE wrote: Hi, DMAPI support is a feature which is essential for usage in many important environments. Are there any plans to add dmapi support to reiser4 ? there is no currently Bjoern

cryptocompress [was Re: reiser4 plugins]

2005-06-28 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! and vfat people may decide they want cryptocompress, I'm sure they don't, because it is mostly for Windows and assorted devices (pendrives, digital cameras, ...) compatibility. Actually cryptocompress for vfat *would* be nice; pen drives are small, slow, and likely

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How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Keven Murphy
Hello, I have read so much about reiser4 and the crypto plugin. What I have not found is any docs on how to set up a partition using the plugin. I have the modules installed and I have created a reiser4 filesystem. I am not sure what I need to do next. Thanks from a reiser newbie, Keven Murphy

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Horst von Brand
Markus Törnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Hans (or someone) decided that when hardware stops working, it's not the job of the FS to compensate, it's the job of lower layers, or

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Horst von Brand
Alexander Zarochentsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 26 June 2005 21:02, Christoph Hellwig wrote: [...] David and Hans, I've read through my backlog a lot now, and I must say it's pretty pointless - you're discussing lots of highlevel what if and don't actually care about something

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Edward Shishkin
Keven Murphy wrote: Hello, I have read so much about reiser4 and the crypto plugin. What I have not found is any docs on how to set up a partition using the plugin. Hello. Crypto transform is unsupported for a while, only compression (still not for product using). The docs are under

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Keven Murphy
Thank you for the reply. Do you see any issues with using reiser3 or reiser4 file system on a loop-back encrypted device? Some of the docs I have found say to stick with ext2 for the filesystem. I was thinking reiser still would be a better choice. Thank you for your help, Keven Murphy [EMAIL

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Edward Shishkin
Keven Murphy wrote: Thank you for the reply. Do you see any issues with using reiser3 or reiser4 file system on a loop-back encrypted device? No, it works for both ones. Use the last patchsets for reiser4, report if something is wrong. Thanks, Edward. Some of the docs I have found say

README clobbered

2005-06-28 Thread Jake Maciejewski
The README at ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/ was modified today. When I tried to check the changes, I noticed that the file is empty. -- Jake Maciejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: README clobbered

2005-06-28 Thread Vladimir Saveliev
Hello On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 20:42, Jake Maciejewski wrote: The README at ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/ was modified today. When I tried to check the changes, I noticed that the file is empty. thanks for noticing that, I guess someone did that mistakenly, should be fixed now

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:01:12 -0400, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Jun 28, 2005, at 01:30:08, Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:38:38 -0400, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ok. Those things should probably be divided up. Stuff like POSIX extended attributes and such

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT), Keven Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thank you for the reply. Do you see any issues with using reiser3 or reiser4 file system on a loop-back encrypted device? I'm using reiser4 on a loopback encrypted device without problems. (But then, I haven't had

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Sean
On Tue, June 28, 2005 10:01 am, Horst von Brand said: I don't belive that you want to see all reiser4-specific things as item plugins, disk format plugins in the VFS. Only what makes sense. Plus many of those will probably have to go. Decide on /one/ way of doing things, even if not perfect

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vitaly Fertman wrote: On Tuesday 28 June 2005 01:07, David Masover wrote: Vitaly Fertman wrote: On Friday 24 June 2005 23:46, Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: I was able to recover from bad blocks, though of course no Reiser that I

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT), Keven Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thank you for the reply. Do you see any issues with using reiser3 or reiser4 file system on a loop-back encrypted device? I'm using reiser4

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean wrote: On Tue, June 28, 2005 10:01 am, Horst von Brand said: I don't belive that you want to see all reiser4-specific things as item plugins, disk format plugins in the VFS. Only what makes sense. Plus many of those will probably have to go.

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:01:12 -0400, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Jun 28, 2005, at 01:30:08, Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 00:38:38 -0400, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ok. Those things should

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:24:45 -0500, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hubert Chan wrote: But using a journaled filesystem on a device-based loopback should be fine. Isn't dm-crypt the new way of doing this? Yes and no. dm-crypt is recommended over cryptoloop. But there is also

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:32:56 -0500, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hubert Chan wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:01:12 -0400, Kyle Moffett [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't deny them the right to add other interfaces later, but such should be a secondary or tertiary patch, after the rest

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kyle Moffett wrote: On Jun 27, 2005, at 22:21:35, Hubert Chan wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:27:26 -0500, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kyle Moffett wrote: I think the '...' is just a bad idea in general, because it breaks tar and

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 6/27/05, Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . But nevertheless it didn't survive, as like V3, with time V4 became slower and slower. In this case no year was needed, but just one month or alike. So end of test...but in

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 6/28/05, Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dm-crypt the new way of doing this? Yes and no. dm-crypt is recommended over cryptoloop. But there is also loop-AES, which is more secure (in some modes) than dm-crypt (currently). There is now support for both LRW-AES and ESSIV in the

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hubert Chan wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:27:26 -0500, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Kyle Moffett wrote: I think the '...' is just a bad idea in general, because it breaks tar and such. An interface like this might be simpler to design

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:23:19AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote: The scheduler interfaces are probably among the most stable in the kernel. Con was talking about internal implementation. Hmm, I'm by no means a kernel developer, but looking at the patches, it looked like the functions were just

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:44:59AM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: No. But just relying on perfect hardware and concientious sysadmins is reckless. Hardware /is/ flaky, sysadmins /are/ (sometimes) lazy (and besides, today they are increasingly just plain Joe Sixpack users). Also, backing up a few

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Jake Maciejewski
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 23:47 +0300, Markus Törnqvist wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:44:59AM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: No. But just relying on perfect hardware and concientious sysadmins is reckless. Hardware /is/ flaky, sysadmins /are/ (sometimes) lazy (and besides, today they are

Re: How to user reiser4 and crypt plugin ??

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:15:38 -0400, Gregory Maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 6/28/05, Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't dm-crypt the new way of doing this? Yes and no. dm-crypt is recommended over cryptoloop. But there is also loop-AES, which is more secure (in some modes) than

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Hubert Chan
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:22:55 -0500, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Come to think of it, that changes the proposal a bit. You need a different way to access the meta-dir for files than for directories, if we're going to support /meta/vfs. No biggie:

Re: reiser4 plugins

2005-06-28 Thread Matthew Frost
--- Diego Calleja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Fri, 24 Jun 2005 21:31:02 -0700, Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: What exactly is not ready Jeff? As I see it, this thread is 95% posturing, and almost no technical reasons for not merging. These authoritiesseem perfectly content

RE: XFS corruption during power-blackout

2005-06-28 Thread Al Boldi
Hi Nathan, You wrote: { On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:08:05PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: True now, not so around 2.4.20 when XFS was rock-solid. I think they tried to improve on performance and broke something. I wish they would fix that because it forced me back to ext3, as in consistency over

Re: reiser4 merging action list

2005-06-28 Thread Hans Reiser
Andrew Morton wrote: Hans Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew asked me to put together a list of things that need to be done before merging: Thanks. As I said to Hans, if we can get a list of bullet-point actions nailed down and agreed to then we have an uncontroversial path to