Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-27 Thread Hans Reiser
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:59:26AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: The xattr namespace offers zero functional advantage over the file namespace. The use of '.' instead of '/' is idiotic, see the very short paper The Hideous Name by Rob Pike (

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-27 Thread Christoph Hellwig
Did you notice that V4 blows XFS and ReiserFS V3 away in benchmarks? That is what I have been doing for 3 years See www.namesys.com for details. see www.microsoft.com why Windows is much better than Linux. Yeah, thanks. still leaving every single non-rhetorical question unanswered

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-27 Thread Hans Reiser
Matthias Andree wrote: If so, the whole discussion is about getting out of the frying pan and into the fire. The traditional approach will then be standards compliant but be out-of-band and outside of the file system name space, the new approach will be outside of the standards, requiring

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-27 Thread Hans Reiser
Christoph Hellwig wrote: Did you notice that V4 blows XFS and ReiserFS V3 away in benchmarks? That is what I have been doing for 3 years See www.namesys.com for details. see www.microsoft.com why Windows is much better than Linux. Yeah, thanks. Ask the users whether their

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-27 Thread Markus Törnqvist
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:15:32AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: The ReiserFS maintainer (me, in case you forgot;-) ) decided what release acls would go into, and you disregarded it and wrote an implementation that was inconsistent with the one planned. Surely this can not be such a bad thing.

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Hans Reiser
Chris Mason wrote: On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:59, Hans Reiser wrote: v4 didn't factor into these decisions because it was still in extremely early stages back then (2.4.16 or so). It was clearly indicated then that accessing acls was scheduled for V4 not V3. I also view V3 as stable

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Chris Mason
On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 14:15, Hans Reiser wrote: Chris Mason wrote: On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 12:59, Hans Reiser wrote: v4 didn't factor into these decisions because it was still in extremely early stages back then (2.4.16 or so). It was clearly indicated then that accessing acls was

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:59:26AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: The xattr namespace offers zero functional advantage over the file namespace. The use of '.' instead of '/' is idiotic, see the very short paper The Hideous Name by Rob Pike ( www.cs.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/doc/ ) for why mindlessly

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Matthias Andree
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Chris Mason wrote: I hope v4 does improve the xattr api, and I hope it manages to do so for more then just reiser4. It is important that application writers are able to code to a single interface and get coverage across all the major linux filesystems. Interesting

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Chris Wright
* Matthias Andree ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: With respect to Hans's reasoning about name spaces, is there an official standard that mandates a particular API for the ACL stuff (POSIX)? POSIX ACL's sit defined in a withdrawn POSIX spec (1003.1e). The API doesn't specify the fs/vfs level detail

Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS

2004-04-26 Thread Andrew Morton
Hey, I was reading that! Please do *not* go making modifications to Cc: lists. Just do reply-to-all and be happy, thanks.