Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-05 Thread Corey Hickey
Danny Milosavljevic wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:28:28 +0100, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
 
 Hello again,

 I just read in a german online news-site
 http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ that Hans' advocate
 Daniel Horowitz (I don't know wether this is the right word, that one
 how helps hans in front of the court) stopped working for hime because
 Hans was not able to pay him anymore.
 
 Hmm? I don't know how it is in the United States of America, but doesn't
 the plaintiff get an attourney paid by the court if he can't afford one?

According to the following page and several others, Hans is still
represented by William Du Bois; he couldn't pay for having Daniel
Horowitz as a second attorney.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/11/29/BAGUFMLORN1.DTL

-Corey


Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Gorazd Golob
I guess it should be possible somehow to raise some funds - guys from
namesys should give us number of his account or paypal would be safer ?
I don't have enough experience with all that e-commerce stuff.. 


On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 11:23 -0800, Anatoli wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I talk to peoples here but wasn't be able ot find any ways to help him 
 eather. :-(
 If you find anything, could you please let me know also?
 
 Thank you,
 Anatoli.
 
 On Saturday 02 December 2006 07:28, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
  Hello again,
 
  I just read in a german online news-site
  http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ that Hans'
  advocate Daniel Horowitz (I don't know wether this is the right word,
  that one how helps hans in front of the court) stopped working for
  hime because Hans was not able to pay him anymore.
 
  I don't know wether this is right or just imagination of newspapers,
  but if thats right we should help somehow. As far as I know there is
  currently no way of donating to Reiser4's developmant nore to help
  Hans in any way? Any ideas?
  Whats about registering a domain with sum fund stuff - donate to
  Reiser4 / help Hans?
 
  Does nobody care?!
 
  lg Clemens



Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:28:28 +0100, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

 Hello again,
 
 I just read in a german online news-site
 http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ that Hans' advocate
 Daniel Horowitz (I don't know wether this is the right word, that one
 how helps hans in front of the court) stopped working for hime because
 Hans was not able to pay him anymore.

Hmm? I don't know how it is in the United States of America, but doesn't
the plaintiff get an attourney paid by the court if he can't afford one?

The page at http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ cites no
source and since a report without a source attribution is not even worth
the bits it is stored on, do we have some actual news report (as in,
verifyable facts) somewhere? Is jdo an attribution? If they are
verifyable, did someone from California check them yet? (I live waaay over
the pond, so...)

 I don't know wether this is right or just imagination of newspapers, but
 if thats right we should help somehow. As far as I know there is
 currently no way of donating to Reiser4's developmant nore to help Hans
 in any way? Any ideas?
 Whats about registering a domain with sum fund stuff - donate to Reiser4
 / help Hans?
 
 Does nobody care?!

I do care and I set up a (small) pledge at pledgebank. Join it, please:
http://www.pledgebank.com/hans-reiser

What does an attourney cost for, say, 100 hours over there?

Also, someone (best: multiple persons) from the Oakland, California area
should attend the hearing at 11 Dec 2006 to see that nothing fishy goes
on.

cheers,
  Danny



Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Bryan Petty

On 12/4/06, Danny Milosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hmm? I don't know how it is in the United States of America, but doesn't
the plaintiff get an attourney paid by the court if he can't afford one?


Yes, and William DuBois is that attorney as recent news articles state.


What does an attourney cost for, say, 100 hours over there?


Even if I had some idea, it would be significantly more in the Oakland
area than where I live.


Also, someone (best: multiple persons) from the Oakland, California area
should attend the hearing at 11 Dec 2006 to see that nothing fishy goes
on.


Sorry, I'm not anywhere close enough to make that.

Regards,
Bryan Petty


Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 13:02:15 GMT, Danny Milosavljevic said:
 What does an attourney cost for, say, 100 hours over there?

Guesstimating $200/hour (minimum), you're looking at $20K and up.  Taking
a case to trial is going to take a lot more than 100 billable hours.




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Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
 Guesstimating $200/hour (minimum), you're looking at $20K and up.  Taking
 a case to trial is going to take a lot more than 100 billable hours.
Hefty. I guess I'll buy some loterry tickets/coupons. I don't make that much
to spend :-(

Regards,
Maciej




Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-04 Thread Clemens Eisserer

Hefty. I guess I'll buy some loterry tickets/coupons. I don't make that much
to spend


Me too - I'm a student ;)
However I guess its not important how much someone pays (e.g. I am
willed to pay 20-30$), I guess if enough people donate money - it
really would help.

lg Clemens


Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-03 Thread Lars O. Grobe
 I just read in a german online news-site
 http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ that Hans'
 advocate Daniel Horowitz (I don't know wether this is the right word,
 that one how helps hans in front of the court) stopped working for
 hime because Hans was not able to pay him anymore.

Hi namesys folks, do you have any information if this is the case, and
if yes, how one can help out? I do not want to believe that someone who
has done development that was given away for free to the Linux community
cannot pay an advocate when he needs to!


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Re: Howto help hans?

2006-12-03 Thread Anatoli
Hi,

I talk to peoples here but wasn't be able ot find any ways to help him 
eather. :-(
If you find anything, could you please let me know also?

Thank you,
Anatoli.

On Saturday 02 December 2006 07:28, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
 Hello again,

 I just read in a german online news-site
 http://forum.tecchannel.de/news/themen/linux/456733/ that Hans'
 advocate Daniel Horowitz (I don't know wether this is the right word,
 that one how helps hans in front of the court) stopped working for
 hime because Hans was not able to pay him anymore.

 I don't know wether this is right or just imagination of newspapers,
 but if thats right we should help somehow. As far as I know there is
 currently no way of donating to Reiser4's developmant nore to help
 Hans in any way? Any ideas?
 Whats about registering a domain with sum fund stuff - donate to
 Reiser4 / help Hans?

 Does nobody care?!

 lg Clemens