Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe

2007-12-13 Thread Mark Constable
On 2007-12-14 02:40 pm, Alexander Dymo wrote: > > > The point is that some applications are ALREADY waiting > > > for inclusion since July/07! That is why I think a > > > release in April makes sense, it > > > > 4 months after 4.0? that's 2.5 months of development time > > at best. seems rather sh

Re: kwin4 renamed to KFourInLine

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Albers
Op Thursday 13 December 2007 23:07 schreef u: > Ok, so i renamed from kwin4 to KFourInLine given the kdegames IRC meeting > consensus and Martin that is the maintainer agreeing. > > I'm almost sure i've done everything needed so that it works, i could start a > game and play, but obviously doubl

kwin4 renamed to KFourInLine

2007-12-13 Thread Albert Astals Cid
Ok, so i renamed from kwin4 to KFourInLine given the kdegames IRC meeting consensus and Martin that is the maintainer agreeing. I'm almost sure i've done everything needed so that it works, i could start a game and play, but obviously double checking everything works as expected is welcome. No

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Alexander Dymo
On Thursday 13 December 2007 19:25, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > The point is that some applications are ALREADY waiting for inclusion > > since July/07! That is why I think a release in April makes sense, it > 4 months after 4.0? that's 2.5 months of development time at best. seems > rather short. In

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:43:53 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > > i'd sooner see us (loosely) sync along with the Qt dev cycle (which has > > become much more regular, ~9 month per release) to keep a steady flow > > of feature / bug fixes going between KDE and Qt. > > Ok, keeping a pace with Qt

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Zander
On Thursday 13 December 2007 18:25:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > After 4.1, we should probably experiment with the 6 month release > > schedule that seems to be working for other projects, > > for certain values of "working". for at least one major project, there > was an immediate and noticeable de

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> If something can not be >> done in 3 months, it is doubtful that it would be ready in 4 or 5, at >> least in the open source world, right? > > i haven't seen that to be the case, no. The half of my brain that almost understands English is confused by this double negativ

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > of course that's what we always used to do. 2.0 and 4.0 have been the only > two > exceptions i can think of since i've been around the project. Yes, this was something we talked about during last Akademy, when there was the "suggestion" to move to 6 months cycle. We alr

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 16:59:16 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > Well, I think that *AFTER* 4.0 it is wrong to continue doing > feature-based releases, and we could experiment a bit with > schedule-driven ones. If it is 3 or 4 or 6 or 8 months it is open for > discussion. But the basic idea is: w

Re: Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday 13 December 2007, Mauricio Piacentini wrote: > > > I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new > > > features and that's quite crazy. If we do this, you once again leave > > > out KDevelop and kdewebdev from the release because i don't think > > > those are going

Re: Modules and Maintainers

2007-12-13 Thread Anne-Marie Mahfouf
Le Wednesday 12 December 2007 04:04:20 pm Allen Winter, vous avez écrit : > Howdy, > > For 4.x, where x >=1, I think we need to require maintainers for all our > modules. yes, this is good! Being a module maintainer is not a big task, it's only about getting things organized: organize an IRC meeti

Discussion about 4.1 timeframe (was Re: What to do about Kompare?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
> > I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new > > features and that's quite crazy. If we do this, you once again leave > > out KDevelop and kdewebdev from the release because i don't think > > those are going to be ready in 3-4 months. You also leave out a > > significant

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 14:08:32 Matt Rogers wrote: > > How do people feel about this as rough planning? > > How about starting a new thread for it instead? Good call. I'll post a more thought-through proposal shortly. -- sebas http://www.kde.org | http://vizZzion.org | GPG Key ID: 9119 0

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 13.12.07 07:10:20, Matt Rogers wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:53 AM, John Tapsell wrote: > > > +1 vote for not including and having a 4.1 release within 3-4 months > > of 4.0. I think everyone can be satisfied with that. > > I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new >

Re: [24h] Kompare move to extragear

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:29 AM, Tom Albers wrote: > Hi, > > Without objections I will move Kompare to extragear tomorrow > evening and add it to the keg-tarball-on-release-project. > > The 24h waiting period starts now. > -- I object. It's already b

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:53 AM, John Tapsell wrote: > +1 vote for not including and having a 4.1 release within 3-4 months > of 4.0. I think everyone can be satisfied with that. I'm not. :P You get basically two months to develop and add new feature

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Matt Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Sebastian Kuegler wrote: > On Thursday 13 December 2007 12:35:29 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: >> >I think we might want to bump pretty quickly to a 4.1 release and >> >that's when we can enable it again (and move some gam

Re: [24h] Kompare move to extragear

2007-12-13 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
On Thu 13 Dec 2007 10:29:06 Tom Albers wrote: > Hi, > > Without objections I will move Kompare to extragear tomorrow evening and > add it to the keg-tarball-on-release-project. > > The 24h waiting period starts now. No objection from me... -- Helio Chissini de Castro KDE Project South America Pr

[24h] Kompare move to extragear

2007-12-13 Thread Tom Albers
Hi, Without objections I will move Kompare to extragear tomorrow evening and add it to the keg-tarball-on-release-project. The 24h waiting period starts now. -- Tom Albers ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/m

Re: Modules and Maintainers

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
>For 4.x, where x >=1, I think we need to require maintainers for all >our modules. +1 for this. This is not obvious, as having too many management layers can sometimes interfere with the process (too many chiefs and no one to do the work.) But looking at the current state of apps, it seems l

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread John Tapsell
+1 vote for not including and having a 4.1 release within 3-4 months of 4.0. I think everyone can be satisfied with that. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Sebastian Kuegler
On Thursday 13 December 2007 12:35:29 Mauricio Piacentini wrote: >  >I think we might want to bump pretty quickly to a 4.1 release and >  >that's when we can enable it again (and move some games and kaider and >  >maybe the ssl tree). > > Yes, I also think we should not wait more than 3-4 months, a

Re: What to do about Kompare?

2007-12-13 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
>I think we might want to bump pretty quickly to a 4.1 release and >that's when we can enable it again (and move some games and kaider and >maybe the ssl tree). Yes, I also think we should not wait more than 3-4 months, and plan 4.1 to the end of April, or May. We all know 4.0 is a release t