Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread David Faure
On Wednesday 27 June 2012 17:21:28 Michael Jansen wrote: On Monday, June 25, 2012 01:05:49 PM David Faure wrote: On Monday 25 June 2012 01:16:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote: If we really want to decouple our releases and be more flexible with doing them i consider this change a

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 13:26:12, David Faure va escriure: On Wednesday 27 June 2012 17:21:28 Michael Jansen wrote: On Monday, June 25, 2012 01:05:49 PM David Faure wrote: On Monday 25 June 2012 01:16:05 Albert Astals Cid wrote: If we really want to decouple our releases

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Jansen
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 07:21:40 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 13:26:12, David Faure va escriure: On Wednesday 27 June 2012 17:21:28 Michael Jansen wrote: On Monday, June 25, 2012 01:05:49 PM David Faure wrote: On Monday 25 June 2012 01:16:05

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Rex Dieter
On 07/12/2012 12:29 PM, Michael Jansen wrote: I will implement the ability to skip release for unchanged modules (fully automated) and would ask everyone here to really think twice before asking the release team to keep the current practice of releasing everything. Because there is no reason.

Re: Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 12 July 2012 12:36:05 Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/12/2012 12:29 PM, Michael Jansen wrote: I will implement the ability to skip release for unchanged modules (fully automated) and would ask everyone here to really think twice before asking the release team to keep the current

Re: Re: Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 12 July 2012 19:43:54 Martin Gräßlin wrote: So you will have a one-time task to set up the distribution build system to create these packages. What I do not understand is why having particular frameworks skip a release would make your work easier. logic error: s/easier/more

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 19:29:46, Michael Jansen va escriure: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 07:21:40 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 13:26:12, David Faure va escriure: On Wednesday 27 June 2012 17:21:28 Michael Jansen wrote: On Monday, June

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Rex Dieter
On 07/12/2012 12:43 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Now, I'd have a much lesser concern if modules that are part of the 'kde development platform' at least are never skipped. Could you explain why? So, right now I can do a very simple runtime dependency for kde apps:

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Jansen
I agree with David here, just release everything, it's easier for everyone. No it is not. It is a waste of bandwidth, resources and time for all involved. Why do you ask for opinions of you are in possession of the truth? I do not understand why you are saying that. Do you

Re: Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 12 July 2012 13:01:47 Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/12/2012 12:43 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Now, I'd have a much lesser concern if modules that are part of the 'kde development platform' at least are never skipped. Could you explain why? So, right now I can do a very simple

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Rex Dieter
On 07/12/2012 01:25 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: But apart from that: could we start dreaming? Dreaming of a KDE where every application clearly defines what dependencies it has and exactly in a way that packagers can set up the dependencies in an automatic and correct way? Can we consider going

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Jansen
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:25:03 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2012 13:01:47 Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/12/2012 12:43 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: Now, I'd have a much lesser concern if modules that are part of the 'kde development platform' at least are never skipped.

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Jansen
You declare your dependencies ( A = 4.3, B = 4.5, C=1.7 ) B declares ( C = 1.6,!1.7) (Because of some 1.7 bug) G.. ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:50:01 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Do you really think forcing an update of unchanged modules for our convenience will help those of us trying to use plasma for mobile devices? That's the work of the distributor for those mobile devices. I think you're missing

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 07:48:53 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2012 19:43:54 Martin Gräßlin wrote: So you will have a one-time task to set up the distribution build system to create these packages. What I do not understand is why having particular frameworks skip a

Re: Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 12 July 2012 13:36:18 Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/12/2012 01:25 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: But apart from that: could we start dreaming? Dreaming of a KDE where every application clearly defines what dependencies it has and exactly in a way that packagers can set up the

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Michael Jansen
The one real world experience we have with this is kdepim. From my perspective as a packager the entire transition has been a disaster and created huge work for us (shortly before our KDE 4.7 based release I was doing almost commit by commit updates of our packages in the hopes of getting

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 09:30:51 PM Michael Jansen wrote: The one real world experience we have with this is kdepim. From my perspective as a packager the entire transition has been a disaster and created huge work for us (shortly before our KDE 4.7 based release I was doing almost

Re: Apologies for breaking the freeze and a suggestion

2012-07-12 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2012/7/11 Aurélien Gâteau agat...@kde.org: Le mercredi 11 juillet 2012 11:23:28 Ben Cooksley a écrit : On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Allen Winter win...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 06:32:04 PM Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Hi, This morning I worked on two bug fixes for Gwenview

Re: Apologies for breaking the freeze and a suggestion

2012-07-12 Thread Allen Winter
On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:23:28 AM Ben Cooksley wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Allen Winter win...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 06:32:04 PM Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Hi, This morning I worked on two bug fixes for Gwenview which I pushed to the KDE/4.9 branch.

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Moore
One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was finding it hard to have the time and I doubt that has changed. At the moment I think I'm generally keeping things flowing, but at high intensity times like releases the

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Richard Moore wrote: One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was finding it hard to have the time and I doubt that has changed. At the moment I think I'm generally keeping things flowing,

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Allen Winter
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:43:12 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: == Note 2 == There is a suggestion that every feature commit should have an associated bug number so it can be better tracked. Someone suggests trying with frameworks when its more ready I wonder if we could make special Big

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 17:06:12, Allen Winter va escriure: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:43:12 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: == Note 2 == There is a suggestion that every feature commit should have an associated bug number so it can be better tracked. Someone suggests trying

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Moore
I've now had 3 volunteers. Thanks to Sune, Boud and Albert we now have this one sorted. :-) Cheers Rich. On 12 July 2012 22:01, Richard Moore r...@kde.org wrote: One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was

Re: KSecrets State?

2012-07-12 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2012/7/10 Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org: El Dimarts, 10 de juliol de 2012, a les 10:01:53, Rex Dieter va escriure: On 07/10/2012 09:56 AM, Jeremy Whiting wrote: It seems it has been moved to playground from kdelibs, but the application in kdeutils is still sitting there. Shouldn't that be

[RFC] Bugzilla Feature Severity

2012-07-12 Thread Allen Winter
Howdy, Wondering if we should add a new bugzilla severity type called Feature. This is something a product owner can add to a bugzilla issue. Users should not be able to set this. When users request new features -- we call those wishes. This new type will be for features that the development

Re: [RFC] Bugzilla Feature Severity

2012-07-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 12 July 2012 19:15:10 Allen Winter wrote: We would do away with the wiki-based feature plans currently on techbase: replacing with a bugzilla query. For example, the query for all wishes planned for 4.10 are: